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Limiting Current to Trailer While Driving

06/01/2010 12:00 PM

Trying to find a good way to limit amps to charge the batteries in my fishing boat while I'm traveling. Like any typical boat, it sits for a couple of weeks before it gets used, and don't want to go through the hassle of hooking it up to a charger before I go. I have the flat 7 pin RV light plug on my tow vehicle, which includes a wire for this purpose - 10 ga wire. I have it all wired up to charge it this way at present.

The problem is, I also have an electric trolling motor on the boat that draws down the batteries excessively. So when I plug in, the amp draw blows the fuse - 30 amp - and the trailer lights go out too.

I'd like to somehow limit the amount of amps going to charge the boat batteries so that I don't blow those fuses, and still have the batteries charge on the trip home. I've used a breaker for a while, but it seemed to "pop" immediately, and I didn't seem to be getting any charging done at all on the trip home.

Any suggestions?

Resistor? Source?

Resistor wire? Source?

Anything is much appreciated.

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06/01/2010 12:18 PM

Try an RV supply outfit, they may have an isolator/regulator combination.

You practice of deep discharging followed by a long period without charging is not good for your batteries (even deep discharge).

To lower the charge rate below what you system can withstand is going to require longer charge times.

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06/01/2010 3:21 PM

[quote]Try an RV supply outfit, they may have an isolator/regulator combination.[/quote]

I'm looking for a cheap alternative. It's just a 14' aluminum boat, not a $30k bass boat, LOL.

[quote]You practice of deep discharging followed by a long period without charging is not good for your batteries (even deep discharge).[/quote]

I agree, but I don't use the electric all that much anymore. Just occasionally, so it doesn't get THAT much drawdown. It just gobbles amps so quick that I can't keep a fuse in it. When I DO draw it down a bunch, I put it on a charger at home, and do the desulfate regime pretty regularly.

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06/02/2010 12:21 PM
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good way to limit amps to charge the batteries"

Sorry, just trying to help, LOL.

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Re: Limiting Current to Trailer While Driving

06/01/2010 12:30 PM

Try a light bulb as a limiting resistor. Cheap and easy. Resistance usually varies about 6:1 from hot to cold filament, so it makes a good current limiter / indicator for your application.

My old headlight bulbs always burn out the normal beam filament LONG before the high beam filament.

Using a replacement socket (<$5) for the old headlight bulb and wiring through the high beam filament, you might get enough current to charge the boat batteries (depends on drive time). Good luck.

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06/01/2010 3:23 PM

"Try a light bulb as a limiting resistor. Cheap and easy."

I like cheap and easy.

Hence my asking about resistors or resistor wire.

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06/02/2010 12:24 AM

This comment only amplifies MJB's recommendation for using a light bulb in series with the charging circuit for the deeply discharged battery.

1. If you place the lamp and socket in the vehicle, where you can see it, the lamp can act as a "high-charge" indicator. I suggest using a front turn-signal lamp, at least. The headlight option is a good one, but hard to mount.

2. It is cheap. It only costs the socket.

3. The lamp should be mounted where the kids won't break it while playing in the back seat. Maybe in the trunk - up high - where you can be sure the lamp has gone out before starting your trip.

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06/01/2010 1:32 PM

There are charge controllers built for just this purpose. I am sure an RV store will have what you need.

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06/03/2010 5:17 PM

Remember the zener diode the BSA's used? No, wait....To much money....nevermind.

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06/03/2010 5:45 PM

The zener is cheap, it's the Lucas smoke kit that's dear..

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06/03/2010 8:21 PM

I have heard the term "Lucas, God of darkness", and watched the unreadable ammeter melt away from it's hole in the headlight nacelle.

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Re: Limiting Current to Trailer While Driving

06/01/2010 2:10 PM

Same post as Automotive.

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06/01/2010 6:24 PM

This is what I do for my 3mtr "Tinnie",

I have acquired a 12V 4.5watt solar panel, not a huge one just about the size of third of a tabloid newspaper. They're available at most electronic stores and come with a set of aligator clips to connect to the battery. They're expressly for the purpose of keeping a battery charged when the vehicle is not in use.

It won't charge a battery from dead, but it will recharge a depleted battery over time.

The only other way of doing it is to install a seperate circuit to the vehicles charging system and using "Anderson" DC connectors on both the car and boat connect the boat battery to the vehicles charging circuit.

Anderson connectors come in various sizes the two common ones are 50 amps and 300 amp, 50 amps should be good enough.

Just put a 100 Amp fuse and a High current blocking diode inline at the car charging circuit end.

The Diode is to prevent the boat battery being drained by the vehicle electrics when the engine isnt running. It will also prevent the boat battery (trying to) supplying current when your starting your car.

Use stranded 6mm2 wire (not 6mm auto wire) it has to be heavy enough to cope with the current draw over a period of time. 6mm auto wire is not heavy enough as it is usually 2mm2 of wire with the rest being just insulation.

Note: a "Tinnie" is colloquial Oz slang for an aluminium boat usually between 2.4mtr and 4.6 mtr (8' to 14') long.

It also refers to the container most beers are supplied in (aluminium cans) and it does cause some confusion to the uninitiated.

Though when your fishing, its good to have a tinnie, in your tinnie while waiting for a bite..

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Re: Limiting Current to Trailer While Driving

06/02/2010 8:10 AM

Get a decent multi-stage charger (or two?) and charge the batteries while the boat is sitting still. I use the "Battery Minder" with good results.

http://thebatteryminder.com/

Your batteries will last a lot longer. Leaving a lead acid battery sit at a low charge level is a fast way to kill it.

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Re: Limiting Current to Trailer While Driving

06/03/2010 1:34 PM

As already mentioned, letting your batteries go far down will shorten their working life, even if they are "Leisure" batteries....not a good move!!

To drop the charging current, I have used several high current Silicon diodes in series as each will drop around 0.6 of a volt.....I had a similarproblem when onboard a ferry and living in my caravan, that the battery got discharged and blew its fuse occasionally when the car engine was started.....

Place a switch across the diodes to switch them out once the battery is mostly charged.....

Assuming 14.4 volts for charging and say 11 volts for the battery (hopefully never less!!), then start with 4 diodes and switch them out one after the other as the charging current drops......unconventional, but will work.......heatsinking may be needed.......

55 watt 12 volt car bulbes are around 2.5 ohms or so each (if my memory serves me well!), if you decide to use that method.....use two in series....then switch one out. Always monitor the current carefully......

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