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'99 Dodge Transfer Fuel Pump Flow

06/12/2010 6:02 PM

hello all, im looking for information reguarding relation between pressure and flow for a fuel pump. i have a 99 dodge diesel truck and the transfer pump is begining to make noise and fuel pressure is not what it should be (new filter installed). im concidering installing a new pump in the fuel tank from a gas powered truck but all the information i find tells me that the gasoline pump is higher pressure after the regulator (49.2 psi compaired to 10 psi needed for diesel) and flow is lower (.57 gpm to .87 gpm for diesel). the gasoline pump has a regulator on top of the fuel tank, and the cummins diesel has an overflow valve on the outlet of the injection pump set at 14 psi.

So i was wondering:

1. can i use a gasoline pump in diesel service?

2. if i remove the regulator on the gasoline pump will i gain the flow i need?

3. is there a ratio of psi to flow?

apperantly the diesel injection pump uses excess fuel flow to cool itself so i would like to keep that as high as possible. the average pressure for the injection pump should be about 11 to 14 psi and some people have ran higher 18+ psi without any problems. i would prefer to have the pump located in the tank so that its pushing fuel instead of pulling.

any input would be appreciated.

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Re: '99 Dodge Transfer Fuel Pump Flow

06/13/2010 1:38 AM

The Gasoline fuel pump should live pumping diesel, BUT, what are you trying to gain? The gasoline pump may not fit the diesel tank correctly. If you are looking for additional power from the dodge, try some of the dodge diesel websites. there are people getting over 600 hp out of those Cummins motors. They will know exactly what you need for a fuel pump. Good luck.

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06/13/2010 11:28 PM

This is just one of those things that have bothered me since I replaced my injector pump six years ago at a cost of 1500 bucks. For some reason Dodge thought it would be ok to mount an electric pump on the side of the engine to pull fuel from the tank to feed it. They could of at least put a low fuel pressure light to let the driver know he is about to burn up an expensive injector pump. im not trying to gain a bunch of power or anything like that, i'm just tired of replcing the lift pump every couple of years due to a faulty design. I know i can get the gasoline pump to fit and run I'm just not sure if the flow will be what I need. Companys sell performance lift pumps for the truck but im not really interested in them. I guess I just enjoy the challange of trying to build things myself.

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06/14/2010 12:30 AM

Aw shucks then give it a whirl but do increase the size of the fuel return line to the tank...maybe it'll keep the fuel warm in the cool season.

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06/14/2010 7:35 AM

There are universal electric fuel pumps that are available at a much lower price. Try one of these. If you want a warning light to warn you, get a low pressure pressure switch, and install it after the pump. Let me know if you want additional help.

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06/14/2010 7:32 AM

cumminsforum.com is the place

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06/14/2010 8:49 AM

Go to TDR.com, you will find all of the info that you need. And maybe Subscribe?

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Re: '99 Dodge Transfer Fuel Pump Flow

06/18/2010 3:47 AM

I find this discussion very interesting mostly for the following reason -

I have a 2001 Dodge diesel truck that I purchased new.

About a year or so later I started having problems with engine running rough.

The dealership told me that the transfer pump was malfunctioning, and that

Dodge was no longer replacing this pump on the side of engine - but installing

a pump in the fuel tank like the gas rigs......also as you described.

I remember this well because they never actually said it was a recall item.

I thought all repairs would be under warranty . Boy was I surprised when I went to

get it it after repairs - the cost was almost $400.00 due to cost of pump and

the labor involved in dropping the fuel tank to install pump.

I have had no problems since, but I have always wondered why I had to pay for

parts and labor if in reality Dodge had quit using the other style pump.

So the change to tank pump works......but I still think maybe some shady practice?

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