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Eclipse CCTV DVR Nubix4 No HDD

06/12/2010 11:35 PM

Our DVR is not seeing a HDD, the regular IDE type. I took it out and tested it as slave on my computer.

Windows didn't see it either.

With the special software SEATOOLS from seagate I could find it and install on the computer.

Windows saw it also and I formatted de HDD and tried it again in the DVR as slave, master, cable. No result.

Did the same test with a different one. No result.

Eclipse answered to have it repaired by a Eclipse installer, who is a $200 air ticket away and probably one day hotel too.

I am trying to find a solution, adapted to my restricted budget. Thanks. D

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Re: ECLIPSE CCTV DVR NUBIX4 No HDD

06/13/2010 12:37 AM

Depends on your DVR. Mine is a TiVo which uses a regular IDE drive BUT needs special partitioning software utilities (Linux based tools) to format/install/copy HDDs. Instructions are pretty INSANE unless you are a geek like me.

http://www.newreleasesvideo.com/hinsdale-how-to/index9.html

You may need special software tools for your DVR HDD as well.

Sorry, I now see this is a security camera DVR. Comments above probably not helpful.

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06/14/2010 3:24 AM

I still gave a GA.

You are dead right, many DVDs and similar use Linux compatible formats which may be very special or even just the old FAT32 system......

Remember also, the segments may not be in the normal order, but interspersed so that a complete track can be written in one revolution......so even if the format "looks" the same as before, writing will still take far too long for video to work correctly......

I think he's screwed (sadly), but probably the DVD is also defective (the original problems), but he can still use the disks on a PC or sell them......

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06/14/2010 9:57 AM

Thanks, but vote may be premature While many CCTV DVRs do have a DVD writer option for archive storage, I don't think the OP has one in his DVR. The only media storage appears to be the internal hard disk drive.

http://www.eclipsecctv.com/NUBIX4LT_security_DVR.html

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06/14/2010 11:45 AM

Sorry, I just meant the rest of the hardware......but I was very unclear in my comment!!!

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06/14/2010 2:37 PM

When I formatted the HDD, I did it in NTFS - is the mistake made there? What does still work with FAT, besides the DVR maybe? I installed a DVD Rom (12X) in it now. So FAT should be an option? Can I reformat these? Thanks for the help.

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06/14/2010 2:53 PM

Most of these recorders use Linux in my limited experince.

Linux is never used with NTFS, but some Linux's can read NTFS format.

Linux is usually on FAT32 in my (limited) experience.

Some DV machines have special formats.

You have reformatted so we will never know what the format was before....

You could maybe buy a new disk from Eclipse, but are you SURE that the rest of the hardware is in a good condition?

Or what was the problem(s) that caused you to re-format?

Don't throw good money after bad.......

PS. You also don't know how the Boot Sector was made and somehow I doubt that a Windows Boot sector will be good enough either......though that is out of my area of knowledge, so hopefully some one else here knows better!!!

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06/14/2010 3:05 PM

In the setup and also the menu I saw the warning no HDD. Tried to put some different HDD in it and also no response. Eclipse is not very helpful. I probably can re format? In my computer - windows XP? Eclipse sells this DVR also without HDD, so that the client has to install one. Probably they detect one? This is the second one from Eclipse and certainly my last one. The operating system of the first was on a card-like memory in IDE interface. You cannot exchange with competitors. DVR's are less than 1/3 of their price in China. Just wanted to keep this as backup. It shows the video (4 channels) but the other features - Lan/Wan - HDD- are not accessible now.

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06/14/2010 3:08 PM

You can try FAT32, just in case.......costs nothing!!

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06/16/2010 1:45 AM

I tried two things: 1. delete the NTFS partition via the command prompt (dos)

formatted in Fat 32

not successfull

2. delete the Fat 32

no format

not succesful

normally the DVT should "see" a virgin HDD. Only I don't know how to make one. Th HDD is a used 10 Gb. The original one was 320 Gb. The Nubix DVR detects the DVD player as soon i connect it. Has 4 "slots" IDE interface for 4 HDD.

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06/16/2010 1:51 AM

There are other partitions which may be required by your DVR. Maybe one of the Linux partitions/formats will work. I use either a dos floppy boot and "fdisk" to completely remove all partitions, or a live Linux boot from CD and "gparted" to create and formant Linux partitions. Will the manufacturer tell you anything about what is required?

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06/16/2010 2:26 AM

They are very secretive and "protective". After 2 DVR's they still didn't learn that this is my last one from them.

Nobody loves me there anymore I guess. Eclipse answered to have it repaired by a Eclipse installer, who is a $200 air ticket away and probably one day hotel too. I am trying to find a solution, adapted to my restricted budget. The first one had the OS programmed in a IDE memory card. (regular desk top computer frame and board) This one sits in a micro chip and id a specific CCTV stand alone DVR. I still can watch the cameras but no recording or no LAN or WAN access anymore. PTZ and zoom functions works fine on the panel. I hear the HDD turn when on.

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06/16/2010 1:31 PM

I think the manual can be downloaded from here:

http://scorpiontheater.com/eclipse.aspx

Scan entire site for more info. It really looks like everything should be controlled right from the DVR interface. There are HDD cables which MUST have the master at one position, the slave at the remaining position, and the HDD jumper at CS (cable select). If you have tried all the various HDD cable and jumper positions (master,slave,cs,no-jumper) with no luck, I can understand why you are stuck. Best wishes.

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06/16/2010 2:22 AM

I think that the DVT has other problems causing it not to recognise any disks......

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