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PGM Melting

06/18/2010 7:14 PM

Hi everybody,

Simple question: I want (to buy or to do it myself) an oven capable of melting 500 grams of Rhodium 1966°C at a time.

Apparently no problem with Moly or Tungsten crucibles.

Is there somebody in the hole world that can help me with this?

Thank you in advance

Hubert

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Re: PGM melting

06/18/2010 7:59 PM

Temperature of an Oxyacetylene Torch"When combined in proper proportions, acetylene and oxygen yield a flame with a temperature of about 3480 °C", 3480 °C. oxyacetylene torch. encyclopedia.com ...

hypertextbook.com/facts/2002/AnthonyCheedie.shtml

There are some furnace/forge type burners.If you need me to I can look up the e-mail address.What are you doing with, Rhodium,atomic weight 102.91?

Joe in Texas

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Re: PGM melting

06/18/2010 8:55 PM

Hi Judge you have a name that is many times used in my family because my brother is judge and my golf partner is also judge and my brother in law.

Lets stop the sentimental names and title..., I know nothing about melting at so high temperature. For 25 years I recovered silver and gold and I had no problem to melt the metals, but know I am still in the business of recovering silver, gold but I added PGM metals and REE (Rare Earth Metals) and I wanted to melt some of them because I thing that I am not paid a realistic percentage.

I decided to have my precious metals melted to have a result of the assay made by ICP.

That why I want to have a way to melt even Rhodium that you can find in different metal sraps.

Thank you for answering and we will keep in touch.

Hubert

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Re: PGM melting

06/19/2010 2:32 AM

I could only find 3 companies that made anything that went that high. The first is Nabertherm, which is carried by Cole-Parmer (you will have to ask for a part number). The ones you want start around page 40 of the catalog on this page:

http://nabertherm.com/produkte/advancedmaterials/en

The second is GERO. Here is the relevant page for that company:

http://www.gero-gmbh.com/index.php?id=127

The final one is Thermal Technology Inc. with this web page. (this is the only US company, the other two are german):

http://www.thermaltechnologyinc.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=11&Itemid=4

If you want to build your own, here is a patent that might help you with the process:

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6741632.html

I would be interested in knowing what the cost of one of these are if you get the chance. Good luck on your new system.

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06/19/2010 3:45 PM

Yes,a quick reply,,,email this guy about an affordable burner.

rprice@hybridburners.com

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06/20/2010 2:08 PM

Hi Judge,

Thank you for your work.

What did he say in is email?

If applicable, I wish you a happy Father' Day.

Hubert

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06/21/2010 7:06 PM

He said in his email,"Let me know when you want to Buy it." I had looked at a picture of it and thought about the cost of acetylene,propane or even LOX if possible.But the Ugly Dollar Sign rears its ugly head,,,

Since then I have went to a 50-100 year old, forced air, forge,coal burner,but with lots of new features that I am just learning.I have it in a shady space of the compound.

Lately my thoughts have been on a new rocket design.One where the combustion goes on Outside the engine,ie:no combustion chamber.Carbon(aeronautical grade carbon),,,drilled with a few hundred holes around the cone,then,,the cone surrounded on the outside with the Right Stuff,,thereby my need to melt metal.The right stuff I would hope to be also,able,,to,,stir friction weld,this carbon to steel,,errrrrr,metal.Is this to much to ask? For a DIY'r? I guess it would come down to how you define the Y in DIY

Joe in Texas

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