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peterg7lyq Guru Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2446 Good Answers: 60	Deep Water Horizon Oil Leak in the Gulf 06/19/2010 4:14 PM
	See they are listeninghorizon.support@oegllc.com Dear Peter xxxxxxn, Thank you for your submission to the Alternative Response Technology (ART) process for the Deepwater Horizon MC252 incident. Your submission has been reviewed for its technical merits. It has been determined that your idea falls into one of the following ART categories: Already Considered/Planned, Not Feasible, or Not Possible, and therefore will not be advanced for further evaluation. To date, we have received over 80,000 submissions with each submission receiving individual consideration and priority based on merit and need. BP and Horizon Deepwater Unified Command appreciate your contribution and interest in responding to this incident. Thank you very much, Horizon Response Team
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Mikerho Guru Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Moses Lake, WA, USA, Thulcandra - The Silent Planet (C.S. Lewis) Posts: 4216 Good Answers: 194	#1 Re: Deep Water Horizon Oil Leak in the Gulf 06/19/2010 6:07 PM
	Hi Peter, What is your reasoning behind deciding to post this? In other words, please elaborate. Mike __________________ "Reason is not automatic. Those who deny it cannot be conquered by it. Do not count on them. Leave them alone." - Ayn Rand
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peterg7lyq Guru Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2446 Good Answers: 60	#2 In reply to #1 Re: Deep Water Horizon Oil Leak in the Gulf 06/19/2010 6:30 PM
	Because i saw somwhere they were not listening to people. Why ? http://bpoilnews.com/gulf-oil-spill-response/bp-oil-spill-suggestion-box-more-of-your-suggestions/ http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6467
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bwire Guru Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upper Mid-west USA Posts: 7498 Good Answers: 96	#3 In reply to #2 Re: Deep Water Horizon Oil Leak in the Gulf 06/19/2010 7:59 PM
	Everyone got one too, an automated response is this the new we're listening model? __________________ If death came with a warning there would be a whole lot less of it.
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peterg7lyq Guru Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2446 Good Answers: 60	#4 In reply to #3 Re: Deep Water Horizon Oil Leak in the Gulf 06/19/2010 8:08 PM
	ah so they are not listening its just to keep the "small "people happy their quote not mine
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phoenix911 Guru Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 23197 Good Answers: 417	#5 In reply to #4 Re: Deep Water Horizon Oil Leak in the Gulf 06/19/2010 8:13 PM
	Interesting if its just a typical response, What if someone suggest they all crap in a bucket, then wear the bucket as a hat. I wonder what catagory that would be put under. __________________ “ When people get what they want, they are often surprised when they get what they deserve " - James Wood
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peterg7lyq Guru Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2446 Good Answers: 60	#6 In reply to #5 Re: Deep Water Horizon Oil Leak in the Gulf 06/19/2010 8:19 PM
	Ah now that would possibly work better than than some of the methods BP have used I cant beleive after 1.6 billion $ they have got nowhere.
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phoenix911 Guru Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 23197 Good Answers: 417	#8 In reply to #6 Re: Deep Water Horizon Oil Leak in the Gulf 06/20/2010 10:00 AM
	1.6 Billion?.....Holy bucket full of poop I wonder, .....since now people are tired of hearing bailout from the government. Is this a new delivery program and they just relabeled it? Yes, I know it was just an accident....sort of, so far. What I can stand, is I'm taking classes at college for project management, and this professors MS and PH d's are saying, its simple, just cap it. simply, done. What I can't stand more than people who do not know what they are talking about, is over educated people who do not know what they are talking about. p911 __________________ “ When people get what they want, they are often surprised when they get what they deserve " - James Wood
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peterg7lyq Guru Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2446 Good Answers: 60	#9 In reply to #8 Re: Deep Water Horizon Oil Leak in the Gulf 06/20/2010 11:53 AM
	And there is a lot of over educated over paid engineers in the oil industry who cant think outside the box. Now they have an unusual problem they cannot be inventive enough to come up with decent working solutions. If i have access to 1.6 billion £ or $ i am sure i would of come up with somthing that would have worked by now. They have tried putting a large bell like structure over it and sucking the oil out that didnt work, Doh ! They tried cutting it with a dimond cutting wire That didnt work (cos they were cutting the wrong way )( imagine cutting a branch off a tree,you wouldnt cut upwards so as you got half way through the weight of the branch is pressing down on the saw would you ?) well (no pun intended) THEY DID, AND WHEN THEY GOT HALF WAY THROUGH THE WEIGHT OF THE PIPE TRAPPED THE CABLE....WOW WHO WOULD OF THOUGHT IT.
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phoenix911 Guru Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 23197 Good Answers: 417	#10 In reply to #9 Re: Deep Water Horizon Oil Leak in the Gulf 06/20/2010 12:08 PM
	I do not know what kind of problems they are dealing with, but I do know, when a project goes south and starts to turn brown. It can become a bottomless money pit quickly A few years before I started working at this shipyard, They built I believe was a 142 foot patrol craft. One the yard birds, (who was not noted for his smarts) was fitting and mentioned that the rotational arrows on the transmission were going the opposite way from the arrows on the screws. To replace the transmission, the hull had to be split. p911 __________________ “ When people get what they want, they are often surprised when they get what they deserve " - James Wood
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peterg7lyq Guru Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2446 Good Answers: 60	#11 In reply to #10 Re: Deep Water Horizon Oil Leak in the Gulf 06/20/2010 12:16 PM
	Now why cant BP employ somone like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3LFBqvvW-M&feature=related Just living is a challenge.
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peterg7lyq Guru Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2446 Good Answers: 60	#12 In reply to #10 Re: Deep Water Horizon Oil Leak in the Gulf 06/20/2010 12:28 PM
	re your comment about the patrol craft that is a good example of over paid engineers. Ive worked on cars most of my life and they were designed by morons. its almost impossible to work easily on modern cars because you cant get at any thing. A really good example was a ford cortina some years ago. now as you know when you open the bonnet (hood for the colonies) there is a big gap at the front, loads of space to get things in and out. so why did they make the cam shaft go out via the cars dash board Yes you had to remove the heater and most of the dash to get the cam shaft out. Its just amazing what clever engineers come up with. There was once to go the other way a really good idea on the UK triumph dolomite, if you wanted to change the clutch all you had to do was pull away the carpet by the gear lever, remove the metal transmission cover undo the is motion shaft pull it backwards then rotate the flywheel and undo the bolts and the clutch and the cover could be removed like a large DVD all from inside the car Cool eh? and when i first started in the motor trade i work at a lot of different garages and got to compare the different manufacturers Toyota was head and shoulders above all the US And European cars. They looked as though they looked at all the good ideas on all the cars of the world and used all the good ideas and built their cars with all the good bit. Except possibly the accelerator system. I have thought of lots of ways to stop the leak and i am sure there are lots of people out there who have also thought of good ideas, The problem is we dont work for BP.
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phoenix911 Guru Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 23197 Good Answers: 417	#14 In reply to #12 Re: Deep Water Horizon Oil Leak in the Gulf 06/20/2010 7:37 PM
	Our yard was a small yard, 1,000 give or take employee's, puts as in a positive catagory for government contracts for small business. I do not believe our engineers were over paid. We has a naval architect....? But most of our engineers were injured yard birds (Welders, Fitters, and such) that was placed in engineering....for light dutys __________________ “ When people get what they want, they are often surprised when they get what they deserve " - James Wood
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peterg7lyq Guru Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2446 Good Answers: 60	#15 In reply to #14 Re: Deep Water Horizon Oil Leak in the Gulf 06/20/2010 7:47 PM
	My appologies i use the term over paid engineers to refer to who ever designed the craft. my mistake for use of the word engineers. Please read as naval architect or designers. please delete the word engineers Sorry again for any offence, None intended
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phoenix911 Guru Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 23197 Good Answers: 417	#16 In reply to #15 Re: Deep Water Horizon Oil Leak in the Gulf 06/21/2010 8:02 AM
	Peter, offense never crossed my mind, I was just stating the environment, And they called themselves.....designers, engineers....whathave you. What I did no care about them is the would never take a position to get an answer. __________________ “ When people get what they want, they are often surprised when they get what they deserve " - James Wood
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Unredundant Guru Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Large hole formally occupied by furry woodland creature. Posts: 3385 Good Answers: 97	#7 Re: Deep Water Horizon Oil Leak in the Gulf 06/19/2010 8:53 PM
	BP= The Box of Pandora. __________________ CRTL-Z
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netmaker Guru Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Cajun Country , USA Posts: 1479 Good Answers: 23	#13 Re: Deep Water Horizon Oil Leak in the Gulf 06/20/2010 4:15 PM
	Answer to problem is forthcoming. We said from day (10-15) that as soon as those white pretty beaches of Florida turned black and brown with crude....the answer to the leaking well would be found. Mind you. not tar balls, not sheen....but that pancake and syrup batter stuff that is coating 124 miles of prime Louisiana marsh. __________________ There is no recall from extinction.
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peterg7lyq Guru Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2446 Good Answers: 60	#17 Re: Deep Water Horizon Oil Leak in the Gulf 06/22/2010 1:45 AM
	in my post, just found it SAVING THE GULF: The Dokyro Sleeve video in three parts PART ONE Part onehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ybgEZiyVdR4 PART TWO http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FjzAWp5GUQ PART THREE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_XOB-wBfVy8 The above is not my idea
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peterg7lyq Guru Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 2446 Good Answers: 60	#18 Re: Deep Water Horizon Oil Leak in the Gulf 06/22/2010 3:29 PM
	just found this, posted on other discussion as well http://blog.alexanderhiggins.com/bp-live-oil-spill-cam.html this is the other discussion http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/56192?frmtrk=cr4sd#newcomments
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