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Burr Problem in a Fine Blanked Part

06/29/2010 10:08 AM

One of our suppliers is providing us a fine blanked part. You can see the photos of the part, below. As the fine blanked edge is an inner gear, there is not enough bearing surface at the location of the teeth on the female die. The result is early breakage or wear causing a burr on that location.

We proposed broaching, but not accepted. What can be the easiest and cost effective solution?

Thickness of the sheet metal is 3,5mm. The diameter of the inner circle (from tip to tip) is about 25 mm.

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06/29/2010 11:55 AM

Better quality (higher carbon) steel and heat treat?
Not my field really as I'm a Cat.
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06/29/2010 12:02 PM

Not my field either, but I agree with del Gatto; also improved tolerancing/polishing of the mating gear and a better lubricant.

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06/29/2010 12:59 PM

If you simply want to remove the burrs, you could try any number of deburring processes, like abrasive blasting, chemical deburring, or rotary deburring. I can see where broaching may not be feasible for a single part, but what if you were able to stack and fixture, say 5 or 6 at a time and broach them? Alternatively to broaching, you may consider wire-EDM or water-jet cutting. Any way you go, throughput will suffer.

You may ask your supplier to look into the clearances between the blanking punch and die, what tool steel they use, heat treat, and wear-coating of the tooling.

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06/29/2010 5:07 PM

Very nice, Milo.

If anyone visits the site, have a look at the Photo Gallery for a series of 'Before and After' shots of varied small parts. Very cool business.

I don't want to look like I'm shining your apple. It looks to me a good solution for the original poster, but I will wait for him to tell us he thinks so as well before I give you that GA. I should just do it now I know this is a good answer...

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06/29/2010 5:18 PM

This company is a leader in the field of deburring. I have seen them solve some amazing problems. The reason that I had nothing else to say is the burr is a problem withthe fineblanking operation at their suppliers, and the cost to make new dies I expect will be quite prohibitive.

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06/29/2010 11:27 PM

Not waiting. GA now, Ky.

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06/29/2010 11:56 PM

Thanks for the enlightening information.

Limitation could be the effect of high intensity heat even for a nano second on long term life of some critically stressed components.

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06/30/2010 6:52 AM

Superb website. Photo gallery is awesome. GA.

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06/30/2010 8:04 AM

I don't see why this is considered a 'good answer'. The company does provide a unique way of getting rid of burrs -- but I thought the question was asking how to prevent the burrs from forming in the first place. Once the part is installed into a final assembly it may not be possible to place the finished unit into an explosive atmosphere. And, unless the underlying cause that creates the burrs is addressed, more burrs would occur.

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06/30/2010 9:04 AM

i can at least explain my opinion. The OP seems quite familiar with the fine-blanking process. Says the reason for the burrs is the insufficient material at the female die. So i think he has exhausted all options of improving the process, and is not finding any acceptable alternative. So, in the event, deburring is an option, and Milo's link is good.

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06/30/2010 11:35 AM

Maybe you should read the Question again? s_l_o_w_l_y
The actual question asks for
"What can be the easiest and cost effective solution?"
I think that self evidently the tooling is worn out or poorly designed...but to replace it isn't very cost effective.
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06/29/2010 11:44 PM

Vibratory deburring and finishing using ceramic media is about one of the appropriate and relatively inexpensive technique for your application. The technique is widely used to deburr and polish finally finished highly stressed gears of aviation transmission applications.

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07/01/2010 12:43 PM

Fineblanked parts always have a burr, located on the opposite side to the die roll. The size of the burr tends to increase with the number of parts produced, reflecting the gradual wear on the tool. Therefore, the tools should be reground at regular intervals. Thermal deburring is very effective only when the burr size is very very small. It is better to control the burr size. If this is taken care of , then even belt grinding or tumbling will do.Hence, please ask your supplier to check the tool wear. Rangasamy

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11/27/2010 11:27 AM

Do not remove the burrs in soft condition. Heat treat the parts with burr and remove the burr by belt linishing machine & vibropolished or abrasive blasting.

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