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Turbine Speed...

07/20/2010 3:44 AM

helloo to all!

My deer fellows I want to know the speed limits of turbines(GAS, STEAM AND WATER).

I just want to know that which turbine has most speed.

and what are the speed limitations of these turbines respectively...

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Re: turbine speed...

07/20/2010 4:23 AM

I dare say it would rank this way

1/Gas

2/Steam

3/Water

The limit of the speed is dependent on the materials the turbine is made out of and where the bearings are made...

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Re: turbine speed...

07/20/2010 7:15 AM

can any body tell me the no of revolutios (RPM) which maximum can b achieved by medium respectively. (GAS, FLUID and WATER)...

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07/20/2010 7:33 AM

usman47,

Are you perchance related to UsmanS, because your questions are equally non-specific.

You also seem to suffer from the same problem of asking the same question over again without having understood the comments. You give too little information.

The "number of revolutions" that you can get from the different media that you propose will depend on the tip speeds and construction of the machine. For a reasonable estimate, use PWS' limit of Mach 1 in post 2 as the upper limit for the fluid limit and the other limitations will be mechanical which are not guessable without knowing the specific details of the equipment.

To misquote Einstein: Insanity: asking the same question over and over again and expecting a different answer.

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07/22/2010 1:09 PM

HAH...very good.

May I have your permission to use the misquote?

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Re: turbine speed...

07/20/2010 7:06 AM

It is especially difficult to operate any turbine at a speed exceeding Mach 1.0 for any fluid, gas or liquid, as the shock waves produced by the deceleration of the fluid as it hits the turbine blades have the potential to disrupt the structure of the blade and whatever is holding it to the bearing shaft. It is for this reason that the air intakes for the now-grounded Concorde commercial aircraft engines employed deceleration techniques so that the turbines could operate below Mach 1.0, even if the aircraft were flying considerably faster. Mach Number varies with temperature, pressure, and a whole host of other fluid properties.

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Re: Turbine Speed...

07/21/2010 1:28 AM

Hey Usman,

Gas Turbine - 5100 rpm

Steam Turbine - 3000 rpm

Hydro Turbine - 1000 rpm

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07/21/2010 3:04 AM

Turbo-molecular turbine vacuum pump, 10 000 to 12 000 rpm, gas only, low pressure only.

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07/21/2010 5:44 AM

Guest, you quote typical numbers - I guess related to power generation.

There are many gas turbines, steam turbines and water turbines that turn substantially faster than your quoted numbers.

RB211 engine on the 757 - N3 runs at about 10,000 rpm.

Elliot produces steam turbines in speeds up to around 20,000 rpm.

The Belgians have a little turbine that produces around 1200 W of mechanical energy at 500,000 rpm. They claim to have achieved 1,200,000 rpm on air bearings.

Don't know enough about hydro turbines to comment, but they are typically much slower.

This all goes to illustrate the utter futility of trying to answer Usman's question as posed.

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