CF-18 Crash at Airshow

Did you have a bad experience with one? Or are you just a radical?

1) Allah is a divine being, and doesn't 'execrate'. It would mess up heaven.
2) If He did have something to dump on jets, it would be 'excrement', fyi.
3) Thank goodness it was a CF-18 and not one of those damnable cr-18's.
4) Allah is traditionally capitalized, for being both a name and a deity.

Thank you flying devil.

Chris

Allah is an old Moon God not the God we know about, "Allahu Akbar" means:

Allah is Akbar , Akbar is an old moon God .

It looks like he tried to stay with her to the last second...ditched her very close to the ground. Hope he's ok.

I don't think it's any more dangerouse than a Nascar race and they have fatal accidents even after all the safety improvements. It's a tough call. I found this ticket for an airshow from 1929 and it says fly in this 15 passenger tri-motored Ford plane. You don't see that at any air show now adays. I'll bet there was a lawsuit that ended those free rides, not safety issues.

I think they still run a Ford Tri-Motor at Lake Erie in the summer. I rode on it once, but not at the lake.

The only difference between Nascar and air shows is that when you lose control of a fighter jet it could easily land 15 or more miles from the venue. This could bring harm to uninvolved people. I'm willing to bet most accidents occur because of pilot error. So perhaps the policies surrounding acceptable stunt pilots could be stricter?

IMO the pilots should rely less on automatic pilots and automatisms in general.

And try some hand controlled competition planes. Best planes have not always best pilots. When you implement safety, you will lose the "show" effect.

I imagine those jets are well maintained. The maneuvers no more dangerous then what would be done in a combat situation. Most likely less so.

Here is a link to a crash here a few years back. It wasn't and aging aircraft and did not see any dangerous maneuvers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4FwUGu-QSk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Co3OQ5bJo_s&feature=related

Looks like the classic high speed stall.

except for the puff of smoke...

but I agree.. they should be well cared for... I would think. and I usually don't see extreme maneuvers, except for the dangers of formation flying. I read an article in this month's Air & Space magazine about Dale Snodgrass who was a huge leader in the show piloting field (with the f14)... very interesting. (I see they have it online too.)

Chris

Hey Chris,

"Exceed the bounds of Safety?" may be a little strong! All of them "Push The Envelope" and the operating limits of of the aircraft! That's what makes it a thrilling Air Show.

If there is enough of the aircraft remaining after the crash, it may be possible to determine the cause of this crash. Several reports speak of a Loud "Pop-Pop-Pop" being heard before the pilot ejected! If that was the case, A Compressor Stall in one of the engines is likely what happened. With the high angle of attack the aircraft was in at the time, One engine will not produce the thrust required to "MAKE IT FLY"!

Age of the aircraft has little, if anything to do with being able to predict a compressor stall. Simple fact that if pressure in the Burner Can exceeds the intake and compression -- the engine will Fail!

Thanks for ejection seats! If it was easy, anybody could do it!

last week's update

http://www.albertalocalnews.com/reddeeradvocate/news/national/Canadian_Forces_cancel_using_CF-18s_at_air_shows_this_year_following_crash_99654269.html

and here is the latest from that incident.

http://www.albertalocalnews.com/reddeeradvocate/news/provincial/CF-18_pilot_injured_back_99315864.html

I agree that it probably will not be a pilot error, and the maneuver looked safe enough...

chris