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Loss of One Phase

08/23/2010 1:07 PM

Hi,

Suppose a 3-phase motor is being fed from a feeder and 300 A flows through each phase totalling 900 A,if one phase gets open(fuse blows,no earth fault) would the other two phase carry 450 A each or some other value.Please answer somebody,thanks.

Sohan

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Re: Loss of one phase

08/23/2010 1:40 PM

A) 300A per phase is still referred to as 300A, not 900A.

B) Phase current for a motor that loses a phase increases because the effective voltage getting to the motor gets redistributed among all the windings and drops by a factor of the Sq. Rt. of 3, or 1.732. So the effective voltage drops to 58% of what you apply. Since motor torque drops by the square of the applied voltage, at 58% effective voltage, the motor torque drops to 33% of what it was. With a constant load, that makes the motor essentially 1/3 of what it is rated for and the load will cause an increase in slip, which creates a corresponding increase in current. The AMOUNT of current increase is totally dependent upon load. if for example the load is less than 1/3 of what the motor is rated for, the current stays within normal range.

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08/23/2010 2:06 PM

Additional information from Bussman to add to Jr's post

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08/23/2010 7:51 PM
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Re: Loss of One Phase

08/23/2010 8:36 PM

you would be running at a single phase state which later on burn-out your motor's winding..this is another scenario of unbalanced system..it occured in our factory where our gantry crane motor drive winding shifted colors from insulated red to burnt black..

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08/24/2010 10:50 AM

Damn that color shift problem... happens all too often. Someone needs to invent wire that doesn't change color like that...

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Re: Loss of One Phase

08/24/2010 1:53 AM

In a correctly-installed system, either another of the supply fuses would rupture, stopping the motor, or the motor overload device woudl operate, doing the same.

There is no excuse for burnt-out motors these days.

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08/24/2010 3:10 AM

Or even before that the single phasing preventer circuit must act.

Provided it is not by-passed as part of cost cutting exercise.

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08/27/2010 1:11 AM

..the incident occured at the CB terminals, the ones that supplies it...another reason for this was because that system existed longer than i am here...so all i could do is to correct it..

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Re: Loss of One Phase

08/24/2010 3:42 AM

No, the other phase won't carry 450A each.

What will happen is that the load connected to the feeder with a blown fuse won't have electricity to pass through to the load, but the current will be flowing up until the point of the fuse and will ultimately reach infinity (maximum), and if not attended to timeously, it will cause a big damage to the cable that might lead to an explosion.

So to correct this, the fuse should be replaced asap because there is no earth fault as well.By earth fault I am under the impression that you are talking about earth fault relay.

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