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Oil in Compressed Air Sensor

09/13/2010 8:30 AM

I am looking for a sensor that can tell whether compressed air contains oil. Is there a sensor/device that can be fitted on the outlet pipe of the compressor to check amount of oil in the compressed air?

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Re: Oil in compressed air sensor.

09/13/2010 8:34 AM

Some instrument air systems contain an oil pot immediately upstream of the pressure regulator feeding the downstream equipment. Its purpose is to introduce minute oil droplets into the compressed air and send them on their way to the equipment being air-lubricated.

The sensor is a Mk.1 eyeball, looking at the oil pot levels under Planned Preventative Maintenance.

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Re: Oil in compressed air sensor.

09/13/2010 9:04 AM

If your using a oil lubricated compressor there will be some oil in the air as the separators do not remove 100 % of that material. I you are using a oil free compressor then you can be sure of no oils entering the air stream unless you have lubricators inline.

Are you asking this question for a specific reason? What is the process that you need to know if there is oil in the air? Are you wanting to use compressed air for breathing, if so then there is a hole other set of rules to follow.

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Re: Oil in compressed air sensor.

09/13/2010 9:15 AM

Why? The amount of oil will depend on a lot of variables. It does contain oil. You should be able to see that in the condensate. That is why they put filters on the lines to remove it and any airborne particles. How much is left in the air will depend on your selection of filters. Filter selection dependent on the application.

I would look to medical use of compressed air to find your sensor. As they would be one of the few applications to need to know the purity of the air.

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09/13/2010 10:39 AM

It is VERY interesting, the question is about a SENSOR able to detect oil presence in the air flow.

There are 3 answers none is correlated to the question.

Why?

I noticed very often that answers do not take into consideration the OP question.

Can one give an explanation for it ?

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09/13/2010 1:04 PM

Maybe because we never question whether there is oil in the air coming from the compressor. Just how clean and dry it is in it's use. Which is where I would place the sensor if it that critical.

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09/13/2010 4:27 PM

This post can be answered with a yes or no..............the answer is probably YES.

Is that helpful?

The other members were trying to glean some further information, so as to answer the OP as accurately as possible.

All this OP wants, it seems, like so many others, is for us to do his internet research for him and provide a spot on answer to a nebulous question.

You should be asking the OP why he is asking such a broad, non specific question, rather than worrying about the other members responses.

BTW, your off topic remark correlates to the OP, how?

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09/13/2010 7:33 PM

Hi KRAMARAT,

Your reaction is very interesting. It in fact confirms another aspect I noticed during the years I follow CR4 discussions.

1- If the other members would have asked about the quantity of oil which the sensor should detect or about temperature range it should work or any thing in this direction I would have said the questions are related to the sensor definition.

2- What should according to your opinion be the formulation of the question so that it will neither be nebulous nor broad or non specific as you say? What is nebulous in the question? He is only asking if such a sensor exists. Should he/she give the definition of "sensor" or the definition of oil or even of air to make it more understandable?

3- In fact ALL (or at least 99.5%) of what we give as answers can be found in the net so in fact there is no reason to have this CR4. With respect to the research, nobody is obliged to do it for the OP, those who do want to do it either for help or because the subject could be also for them of interest or simply because they have the time to do it. As for myself I seldom give an answer based on net research, I try to use either experience or analysis because CR4 is for me interesting as a source of problems to think about.

4- I appreciate your recommendation not to be worrying about responses. Did I touch a sensitive chord by asking about correlation ? Did I disturb you ? In fact what you write with other words is "shut up" and "do not make comments". Is this site in your opinion not a site where one has the freedom to ask a question so that he can understand some thing better (my question has as goal a better understanding of the engineering psychology) ?

5-With respect to correlation. If you consider that I should not ask the question since it is not related to the OP but with the answers why do you make your comment here you should in order to respect the correlation use the direct message possibility. To explain why I wrote it here is simple because it was a very good example of what I saw many times.

6- Although you did not consider your comment as OT I consider that I answer to an OT comment so that...

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09/14/2010 7:44 AM

If this particular question is answered, as it is written. The answer would be a simple, yes or no, period. It seems rather pointless to me.

It does get a little frustrating, when people should start with google, and then come here for opinions on what they've found or verification of what they've found.

Although, the posts to which you were referring, may have been a little snarky, I do think that they were trying to help.

I found it a little odd, that you took it upon yourself to pop in and criticize the other posters, without contributing anything to the thread what so ever.

At this point, both of us are just wasting time and space on someone else's thread, so we should probably just pop out.

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09/14/2010 2:17 PM

Do you know of a compressor that would not have oil in the air? What would be the reason for detecting it if you knew it was already there? He did not ask for a device to detect the quantity. Just if it was there.

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Re: Oil in Compressed Air Sensor

09/13/2010 1:11 PM

Taking a lead from the first two helpful posts and I did a search for breathing quality air testing:

http://www.draeger.com/US/en_US/products/diving/test_equipment/dss_Aerotest_Navy.jsp?showBackButton=true

This looks expensive.

You actually have two questions 1. whether it contains oil 2. How much.

I hope this helps, otherwise I shall be held accountable.

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09/13/2010 1:17 PM

You didn't say whether you wanted or didn't want oil in your air. Applications differ. Here's something I ran across with a quick Google.

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Re: Oil in Compressed Air Sensor

09/14/2010 9:21 AM

Thanks RDGRNR. I explored the http://www.beko.de/Measurement.25.0.html and found the METPOINT OCV (Monitoring system for residual oil in compressed air). I am using the Tegnon FP and FA type filters and also installed a dryer in the system but still experiencing oil residues in the system. I will be usisg the device to determine the frequency of changing the filters. BIG Thanks Everyone.

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