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Intelligence or Intellect?

09/14/2010 11:26 AM

Hello,

One of my friends recently asked me whether I value intelligence more or intellect more....I could not answer that because I didn't know the difference between them... (I don't know whether there is any difference at all...)

To find the difference,I did what anyone with easy access to the internet would do..google it..but I was not satisfied (When I typed "intellect" in Wikipedia, it redirected me to the "intelligence" page..!?!)

What do the members of CR4 think about this? According to you, which do you value more..?

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#1

Re: Intelligence or Intellect?

09/14/2010 11:32 AM

Try the Wiki definition of intellectualism.

The answer you seek may be held therein.

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09/14/2010 11:41 AM

Dear Atlas, Great Question, Being that I reside in districts remote from learning.... wish I knew. Time and again... life has shown me that luck is a better friend, than smarts. I would also add that your friend, who asked the question, is your friend not based solely on your smarts. p.s.... did Atlas shrug?.

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09/14/2010 12:09 PM

To me "Intellect" is genius, incomprehensible to us mortals..... who are actually quite "Intelligent" ... smart, quick-thinking, analytically able to solve problems, so many types.

It took me quite a while to figure out that > 99% of the so called intellects were really frauds, and just could not solve simple problems. They just couldn' get good jobs.

The other 1% were really geniuses. They could discuss quantum physics and also solve a small puzzle.

Maybe Intellect is potential energy. When it turns kinetic, it may manifest as Intelligence ?

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09/15/2010 11:44 AM

Actually you answered your own definition in that intellects can be frauds. As you use it, intellect is therefore some claim to intelligence through a work or product that is perceived to have taken great intelligence to produce.

Many times others tend to use it to represent the knowledge and capabilities gained through education. I think this is probably the definition the poster had been questioned about versus intelligence, which is the measure of the ability to solve new problems and the rate and level at which someone can understand new solutions to new problems, but not so much to remember. (New in that it is something the person is inexperienced in previously.)

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09/14/2010 12:12 PM

Most CR4'er would turn first to their Dictionary before asking such foolish questions.

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09/14/2010 12:24 PM

What is this "Dictionary"?

Oh, let's see if Wiki knows.

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09/14/2010 12:58 PM

Good one. Funnier than the original joke (although lacking in originality).

BTW, what's the difference between original and originality? Anyone out there know?

Who is this Wiki guy? He is all knowing, yes?

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09/15/2010 10:45 AM

Quick...what is another word for Thesaurus?

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09/16/2010 8:16 AM

Don't you mean "What's another word for Synonym?"

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09/16/2010 7:49 AM

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=dictionary

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09/14/2010 12:21 PM

Intelligence is what comes from the intellect. They are the same thing. Your friend is either cheekily playing with semantics, or has asked a dumb question.

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09/14/2010 12:52 PM

Sadly, neither of you were in Ms. Ponte's Latin class that day, and missed this.

Origin: ME < L intellectus, a perceiving, understanding < pp. of intellegere, intelligere, to perceive, understand < inter-, between, among + legere, to gather, pick, choose.

That is Intelligence is the potential, and Intellect is its use.

The interesting thing is that boiled down to its Latin roots, Intelligence, Intellect, and critical thinking are all about choosing between alternatives.

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09/14/2010 5:19 PM

Hmmm. In actual use, the terms seem to be somewhat the opposite.

'Intelligence' is what you know. As in, "We have intelligence reports that state..."

Whereas, intellect is the ability to gather knowledge. As in, "Mycroft Holmes was a man of extreme intellect..."

Thus, Mycroft had a deep intellect and possessed vast amounts of intelligence.

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09/16/2010 11:40 AM

Actually saying a man is of extreme intellect usually means he has knowledge not the ability to gather knowledge. Intellegence is usually applied as you have indicated with reference to information direct, the information iss the intelligence, or when applied to aperson such as a man has extreme intelligence it usually mean he has the capacity to solve problem of extreme complexity. However, intellect and intelligence get convoluted throughout the language. In addition the term intellect gets corrupted by intellectuals which tend to be a elitist sector of people who are well read/educated in certain categories of knowledge, potentially without any higher problem solving or learning capacity, just remember the correct books. When biologists and other social scientist study intelligence they typically define it based on the complexity and speed with which a creature can solve a new problem or the complexity, or complexity or speed at which they can learn and understand a new technique/solution etc... Square peg round hole type of thing.

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09/15/2010 7:59 AM

Lol I did a dictionary search on both to see if your definitions are still accurate in the modern day use of the words. I have a new questions now. What is the difference between "capacity for acquiring knowledge" and "capacity for learning?"

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09/16/2010 7:19 AM

Anyone can say, collect all the facts or books or data or informationorbaseball cards. That does not mean that they will actually learn from it. Collecting facts is nt the same as learning. Making inferences is Quite Different from reporting facts. Milo

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09/15/2010 8:13 AM

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09/14/2010 2:32 PM

I think I perceive "intellect" to be a noun and "intellegence" to be an pronoun. Does that get us anywhere?

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09/14/2010 11:18 PM

Intellect is like an operating system, able to respond to inputs interactively, and give sensible and appropriate answers, often insightful.

Intelligence is the ability of the intellect to perceive accurately, understand comprehensively, and problem solve effectively. It is greatly aided by training and knowledge. It is rather like a scalar value, and much more measureable than intellect, where 'social skills' can dramatically improve the perceived value of the resulting outputs.

Oddly enough, people who listen more, are often perceived as being more intelligent. This suggests that people really want to have their own ideas and intelligence validated more than they want answers from others.

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Re: Intelligence or Intellect?

09/14/2010 11:58 PM

For a quick answer, it is as follows:

Intelligence is what you find normally in the world - all your mental activities, logic, etc.

Intellect is something deep within you - at best you can feel it, but the brain cannot understand it.

In case you want to investigate further, it calls for a really arduous spiritual journey.

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09/15/2010 3:30 AM

People get confuse about Intellect and Intelligent and is because we have a mix of them in our brains but once we understand what is about we get a clear idea or what it is each of them.

The first one: Intellect is the knowledge our mind has learns true the years, even how to solve different kind of problems, this mean you know how to solve them but you learned from somebody else whom solve them before.

And the second one: Intelligent is the ability of solve problems without previous knowledge in another words you find how to solve problems by yourself with no help of anybody else.

That is why is too hard to text the intelligence. It is hard to see if somebody is using the intellect or the intelligence to solve a problem.

All this mean that an Engineer is more intellectual and an Inventor is more intelligent. but like I said before everybody have a mix of both.

My personal opinion is that I really like both but I prefer be more intelligent than intellectual, maybe because I am more an inventor than an Engineer.

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09/15/2010 9:28 AM

An intellectual person is a philosopher, often a generalist, a sage, who is ahead of our time. An intelligent person learns the philosophy and knows how to transform it into practical things and teach it pragmatically. Because there are intelligent people, but without wisdom and wise people, but without study, this leads us to believe wisdom comes from the spirit and intelligence comes from the study.

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09/15/2010 10:42 AM

All the intelligence in the world is useless if you don't have the intellect to use it.

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09/15/2010 9:36 PM

Atlas.........why did he asked you the question? perhaps he wants reassurance that you will still be his friend if he show his weakness's(limits). Or should we only treat it as an academic question?

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09/17/2010 11:15 AM

If we do a comparison between the brain an a computer we can say intelligence is the operating system and intellect is the software. And I value more Intelligence.

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09/17/2010 1:23 PM

Actually, intellect would probably be more comparable to the data files stored on the computer, and intelligence is more along the lines of the composite of the hardware and the operating system.

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