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Faraday Day

09/22/2010 8:25 AM

Today is the birth date of the father of electromagnetism.

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09/22/2010 8:32 AM

can i have the Cake plz.....

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09/22/2010 9:47 AM

Where can I find the Scotch and ice cubes.

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09/22/2010 3:02 PM

I had a little piece of birthday cake. It tastes like burnt insulation.

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09/22/2010 8:52 AM

i dont think he invented it, Just discovered it.

It was there before he was born,

But i will send him a card,

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09/22/2010 9:22 AM

Wiki Phesant - without Faraday there would be no Tesla - without Tesla there would be no this.

But you are right about one thing; you don't think.

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09/22/2010 9:26 AM

other people around the world were discovering things all the time, somone else would have made the connection

http://answers.encyclopedia.com/question/discovered-electromagnetic-induction-90262.html

http://physics.kenyon.edu/EarlyApparatus/Electricity/Electromagnet/Electromagnet.html

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09/22/2010 9:34 AM

Um - so you don't actually know how what Faraday observed, or how that came about, but decide to make lite of the mans intellect? Fascinating

Was he not "the engineer of record" as Captain Moosie might demand?

And what precisely have you two "discovered"?

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09/22/2010 9:42 AM

as i thought he wasn't the only one who discovered electromagnetism there were lots of people round the world who also discovered the same things at about the same time, some advertised their findings some did not and so the ones who shouted the loudest got the credit

it doesn't matter who discovered it now does it, its there.

happy birth day to one of the discoverers of whatever it was he discovered

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09/22/2010 10:10 AM

Bit like Bell and the Telephone and Edison and the light bulb.

Might also pay you to find out how Wiki works.

How [citation needed] works

And learn what specifically about science lead to what.

Like the difference between "fundamental understanding of" and "discovery of".

Your "logic" is gravity existed before Newton - but he just yelled loudest?

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09/22/2010 10:22 AM

yes your right theres a lot of controversy about who invented the light bulb, the revolver, the television camera

And yes Gravity obviously existed before Newton discovered it, otherwise every one would have been floating about prior to that day.

And i bet most of the population of the planet knew that if you threw things up they came down, But most people couldn't care why.

Personaly i dont care who discovered what its all history

this is my last comment on this as its getting boring

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09/22/2010 11:02 AM

My last last comment.

example the Colt revolver is said to have been invented by Samuel Colt.

Not so.

The below passage is taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Colt

Colt never claimed to have invented the revolver, as his design was merely a more practical adaption of Collier's revolving flintlock, which was patented in England and achieved great popularity there.[8] He did, however, greatly contribute to the use of interchangeable parts. "Unhappy with high cost of hand made guns, and with the knowledge that some parts of guns were currently being made by machine, Colt wanted all the parts on every Colt gun to be interchangeable and made by machine. His goal was the assembly line".[9]

So did Samuel Colt also invent the Assembly line as i believe this title was given to Henry Ford

It is very difficult to work out who was first in anything.

ex when i was 15 i thought it would be a good idea to coat submarines in rubber to reduce the echo from sonar thus reducing the signature of the size of the sub,

it is now common practice to put rubber tiles on subs

so who invented that idea ?? ps i haven't a clue but i could Probably find out but cant be bothered

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09/22/2010 11:10 AM

And for your 45th "last comment" - not the magnetic conundrum of the Colt 45 (from Wiki) - but ....... ???

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09/22/2010 11:18 AM

Both of you, please stop bickering.

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09/22/2010 11:52 AM

Why?

I have never objected to his posting of largely irrelevant "links" in response to some word in a post that strikes some chord in his limited technical vocabulary.

At most I have commented on the irrelevance - and given the volume - quite sparingly.

But there is a step too far.

Disparaging one of the great minds of science is that step.

Note how the direct parallel of Newton and Gravity was obfuscated. Any normal logical person would concede and apologise - to Faraday - on his birthday - but not peterg7lyq.

Here is a person who references Oersted as if he and Faraday did the same thing!

Here is a person who takes some journalist's ignorance or search for a dumbed down title literally - and before looking up what Faraday did on his precious Wiki - slags.

You don't need me to stop "bickering" you need;

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09/22/2010 11:59 AM

you seem upset was it somthing i corrected you on.

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09/22/2010 12:11 PM

When I say stop, I mean it. I will delete any more egging or sarcastic posts on this matter.

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09/22/2010 12:03 PM

Why?

This off-topic discussion is not contributing the original thread. This is what I am concerned about.

His irrelevant "links" were posted "off-topic."

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09/22/2010 12:22 PM

See contributions 1, & especially 2 to the original thread.

Try being concerned about the "quality" of that.

And I note; you have left peterg7lyq on topic in several instances but put all mine off.

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09/22/2010 12:33 PM

Sorry

Mr Faraday

Happy Birth Day and may you have many more.

Oh no you can not can you cos you is D Sorry Again

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09/22/2010 11:30 AM

Any way

Happy birthday to you

happy birthday to you

Happy birth day Mr Faraday

Happy birth day to you

You keep on inventing dont let death stop you

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09/29/2010 12:44 AM

This is true for almost all discoveries/ inventions. Why to be so cry for Faraday?

It is said that even one person from India "Talpade" successsfully tried unmanned flight 8 years before Write brothers.

See links:

http://www.gaudiya-repercussions.com/index.php?showtopic=2138

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shivkar_Bapuji_Talpade

But Talpade being in India under rule of british that time, could not shout enough probably.

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09/29/2010 1:18 AM

"Unmanned"?

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09/29/2010 2:26 AM

I am also surprised. But see vary first line of wikipedia matter.

(I was born in 1953, and the above flight is said to be of 1895, so I do not know really, what was tried)

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09/22/2010 9:28 AM

http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_discovered_electromagnets_and_when_did_he_discover

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09/22/2010 9:52 AM

Nice links peterg7lyq.

Learned some new facts on the subject

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09/22/2010 10:25 AM

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The discovery was a sensation — perhaps a little too much of one. Davy, a scientific rock star of his day, was envious. He accused Faraday of stealing the idea from him and tried to block the young man's election to the Royal Society. Davy backed off but never withdrew the charges. Faraday became a Fellow of the Royal Society and lab director at the Royal Institution in 1825.

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09/22/2010 11:05 AM

What link?

Who are you taking to?

Why is every response more regurgitated Wiki?

And obviously it wasn't your last comment, so add lying to Wiki Pedant Pheasant.

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By the way" Wiki Pedant Pheasant" why are you calling me a BIRD perhaps spelling needs to be addressed A Pheasnt is

and so i rest my case M`Laud

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this item should have read

Taken from the following Link the below sentence is not mine but from a link which i cannot find at the moment sorry if it was confusing

The discovery was a sensation — perhaps a little too much of one. Davy, a scientific rock star of his day, was envious. He accused Faraday of stealing the idea from him and tried to block the young man's election to the Royal Society. Davy backed off but never withdrew the charges. Faraday became a Fellow of the Royal Society and lab director at the Royal Institution in 1825.

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Found the link its the link on the first thread. The discovery was a sensation — perhaps a little too much of one. Davy, a scientific rock star of his day, was envious. He accused Faraday of stealing the idea from him and tried to block the young man's election to the Royal Society. Davy backed off but never withdrew the charges. Faraday became a Fellow of the Royal Society and lab director at the Royal Institution in 1825.

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09/22/2010 10:53 AM

I'm in the process of contacting the KrisDel Company to market Faraday cages for your computers and cell phones for when the big sun storm hits. $1395.99 for the big ones $4.99 for the phones. Shipping and handling only $59.95. Buy now and avoid the rush!!!!

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when is this sun storm going to take place ??

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09/22/2010 11:24 AM

And the Grand TonyS Prize for the most off the wall thread goes to……

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09/22/2010 12:59 PM

who was the Mother? of the invention ?

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09/22/2010 5:19 PM

You could be talking about FZ's band ... but it ain't necessarily so ...

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We're not alone ... .

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I AM THE MOTHER OF INVENTIONS

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09/22/2010 3:13 PM

Yes but the real celebration should be of Davy's birthday. By the way, I am looking for some Davy cages to protect my expensive electronics from the EMP that'll hit once the moderators slam this useless thread shut!!! heh heh heh

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09/22/2010 6:29 PM

Wow i never thought that a simple piece of information would turn into such a wild run at supremacy. I think I will go back to not participating and forget about CR4 again.

Apologies for the err in Calling him the father of electromagnetism I should have said electromagnetic induction.

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pheasent answering

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you spelled it incorrectly. harrumph.

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09/22/2010 6:47 PM

What about Joseph Henry?

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09/29/2010 3:28 AM

NWR (New world record)

Out of 45 posts, 35 are declared OTs, and few other including mine are also OTs. t.

(This is one more)

I thought now the third world war is going to star

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1. If the post to which you are replying was self-declared OT, any reply inherits the OT unless you uncheck the box to the lower left. This has evidently happened several times in this thread.

2. I highlighted "Unmanned?" because an unmanned flight at that time would not be especially significant. After all, any paper airplane is an unmanned flight....

3. For some time before the Wright brothers, various persons such as Octave Chanute and Otto Lilienthal had achieved unpowered glider flight. Similar devices today are called "hang gliders" or "paragliders."

4. About the time of the Wright brothers, Alberto de Santos Dumont (Brazil) was trying similar things.

5. The Wright brothers did achieve briefly sustained, powered, manned, heavier-than-air flight in December 1903. Then they improved on it, sold the military on it, and began to commercialize it. Other experimenters did bits and pieces of this, but the Wright brothers carried the whole business farther and faster, and with more publicity, than did the others. Hence they are remembered.

6. This does not lessen the contributions of those others, but theory alone (and even technical success) does not cut it in the marketplace. Further development and market expansion are perhaps more important, and memorable.

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09/29/2010 6:48 AM

Thanks Tornado.

The fact related to the long debut is that the discoveries do take place simultaneously at different corners of the globe. This is vividly shown in Aurther Koestler's "Act of Creation"

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