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Malware in Iranian Power Station

09/27/2010 7:41 PM

Hello members, it's been a while as I'm returning from a stint in Digital Print devices, Hewlett Packard, Konica Minolta etc.

My question if I may, have anyone else heard the story circulating about the Malware discovered in the servers of the Iranian Nuclear Power Stations?

From the initial report I heard it's one of the most sophisticated viruses every developed.

The virus attaches to the PLC's within the facilities and acts as an intermediary giving alternative instructions to the hardware. So it tells the Gas bleeder valve to stay shut at critical levels instead of open.

So does the Middle East use Allen Bradley, Rockwell & Mocicon like every ware else in the world?

What happened to the Eithernet being secure?

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09/27/2010 7:48 PM

You need to google "Stuxnet worm".

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09/27/2010 8:24 PM

Thanks Kris, will do.

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09/27/2010 9:27 PM

Hope it helps :)

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09/27/2010 9:31 PM

If I read it right

they're using Siemen's PLCs

and they figure it was made by another government somewhere because of the costs and time it took to make it

which brings up another question

why make something like that so vulnerable by making it "net accessible"?

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09/27/2010 9:53 PM

My thoughts exactly, I went to an IICA night where various engineers Schneider, Rockwell, Allen Bradley etc. all expounded on what was the best PLC on the market.

They were all saying how the Eithernet was the platform of the future and how Cisco programmers were coming up with every more sophisticated device - device technology.

Within 10 years the whole western world could be held to ransom with a Super Worm. Turn the power off in Sydney for 10 hours and see what happens.

I remember the last major power outages in 1984 & that was around the time Fax's were coming on the market.

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09/28/2010 12:29 AM

Welcome to CR4 Trans.

I keep asking the "Dude", the young man who helps me out with all the things that are thrown at us coming from the IT world: "who is actually in charge of all these goings on's"?. His answer is always more of a shrugged nonverbal reaction. Sort of "nobody knows, let's do it anyway". He does know what he is talking about, trust me on this.

The chances of a catastrophic failure one day, not just in Sydney for 10 hours are, in my eyes 100%. You know, good old Murphy has his fingers in all the pies ever thought of. I am surprised nothing like that happens on a grander scale all the time. Like Virgin Air, blaming their provider for failing the back up system. For you outside of Australia, there are still people stranded and fingers are being pointed in all directions.

What makes any one think a that anything that can be built that can't be sabotaged. Any bloody thing ever created.

You know Trans, I would address you by your real name, it is a huge danger lurking and the 10 hours without power is the least of my problems. We get it here once in a while and even for longer. Much longer coming to think of it.

Sit back and relax Mate, the IT's have it all under control. Even nuclear facilities Mate, they have it all under control.

Have one on me, Ky.

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09/28/2010 1:13 AM

Ross is my name, and I have a good supply of candles.

An old metho burner & a push bike set up for touring.

I also know how to cook Kidney Beans & Lentils 20 different ways.

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09/28/2010 2:24 AM

Good onya Ross. We have a Ross River here so there is a good chance I'll remember.

I had a chat to the Dude and he said that it would be very difficult to hack Siemens wall of defense (or any other) but that anything would be possible if done and planed by the real heavies in the field.

It is not to be taken lightly and the better one is prepared for a few days,..... well just common sense really. What worries me the most is that I know what a cat 4 looks, feels and sounds like but the consequences of a complete melt down (what pun?) of us communicating here is beyond my imagination. Just the commerce aspects of it make me shudder.

Well, .......

I'll have one on you a bit later on, my shout next.

Wayne Bennett, what a leader in his field, aih.

Sorry none Aussies, just a little insider for the cricket lover, Ky.

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09/28/2010 3:07 AM

Yes Ky,

My Mother named me after the same River in the late 1950's.

She did not know that a mosquito virus was going to be named thus 25 somthing years later.

Got some finishing touches to do before I leave for the day, catch you over another topic some time.

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09/28/2010 5:18 PM

I ran a thread on this last week :

http://cr4.globalspec.com/thread/60342

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09/28/2010 5:36 PM

Thank you for that link. It does answer a few questions and points fingers left right and centre. Scary really, Ky.

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09/29/2010 3:56 PM

I read that one just a few moments ago. Both of these are good threads - on a very bad situation.

If I still had a sense of humor, I would say that "somebody just opened up a can of worms". Unfortunately, having worked at a couple of plants that stored up to 1400 tons of liquid oxygen, there isn't a damn thing funny about it.

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