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Syphon Effect Calculations

09/29/2010 4:06 PM

Hello sirs,

I am working on the project which covers the modification of the existing produced water tank. Recently I have been asked to verify the size of the vent line, which is located on the overflow line of that tank. The main purpose of this line is to help to avoid the "syphon effect".

So could you please help me to find an industry standard or manual for calculation of "syphon effect"?

Thanks in advance.

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Re: Syphon Effect Calculations

09/30/2010 12:46 AM

I've never seen any calculations for this, just hand-me-down specs or drawings that show a small hole (say 3/8" or whatever size). However, there are many possible situations, so probably no simple answer. You could estimate how fast air or vapor might be drawn through the hole, calculsate the orifice pressure differential, and compare to how high liquid must rise to go over the siphon. (That may seem vague, but I'm just trying to cover the general situation.)

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Re: Syphon Effect Calculations

09/30/2010 6:18 AM

If the Overflow pipe is located at the level where it should drain the extra fluids, and it has no internal bends (downward into the fluid), there will be no syphon effect when the fluid level reaches the pipe orifice.

Your problem must be to have the correct pipe size(diameter) to accomodate the event of overflow against the incoming supply: Flow rate through the pipe must be higher than the expected flow rate coming into the tank.

The vent pipe in this case is to avoid trapping air in the overflow pipe preventing an easy drainage: Put a vent pipe of 1/2 the diam of the overflow pipe when sized properly.

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