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Cables Bunched?

10/09/2010 1:39 PM

i have two sets of cables( l1..l2..l3 and i have another pair of l1 l2 l3 ..would it be okay if we put the l1s together..the l2s togerther and the l3s together? they are goin through a transit window as we work offshore? any help?

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Re: cables bunched?

10/09/2010 2:40 PM

Not if the different phases pass through separate holes in any magnetic material.

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Re: cables bunched?

10/09/2010 11:44 PM

DONT DO IT! Google Eddy Currents!

Doing this will increse the temperature in the conductoers and cause failures.

Im curious why you would want to do this in the first place.

Get advice from an electrician on installation methods. Engineers have their noses too far up their asses for real life advice about 24V.

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Re: cables bunched?

10/10/2010 5:44 PM

Who are you in the first place?

Are you an electrician?

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Re: Cables Bunched?

10/11/2010 8:49 AM

Yes,you can do that if the cables are 3 or 3 1/2 core cables carrying 3 phase AC power supply.

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Re: Cables Bunched?

10/16/2010 2:39 AM

yes, i am also phase same problem, you do 1,2,3,and 1,2,3 its not possible 1,2,3, make separate tined copper gland plate to avid eddy current loss

or if you are doing 1s,2s,3s together the tined copper gland plate not in the round position,may be cut round position,to avoid eddy current.

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Re: Cables Bunched?

10/17/2010 11:52 PM

Guest,

Tornado's answer is correct, but its brevity is misleading. From the wording of your post, I assume that these are six separate cables or conductors, not two multi-core cables. I also assume that you are talking about these all going through a single window or opening. If so, there is no inherent problem with bundling them together I1-I1, etc. The problem comes if they are going through separate openings in a magnetic material, such as steel. Then, you would induce eddy currents into the material which would heat it and thus heat the cables, leading to premature failure. If this is the case, slots cut from one hole to the next will make the separate holes appear (magnetically) to be a single hole and the eddy currents will be immaterial. Remember that any time you run cables in parallel, you must ensure that the installation truly divides the current equally between them. This is by making each phase the same material, same length, and same insulation type.

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Re: Cables Bunched?

10/18/2010 6:34 AM

Whatch it if he is using metallic Cable Glands! Same precautions and same problems when bunching.

Tornado said simply and if the OP did not get it, he should not be handling the job.

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