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FE Certificate

10/24/2010 6:19 PM

hi all.,

anyone knows about fundamental of engineering certificate and how beniftial it is for engineers to work in europe , middel east and american states?

how would be their exams?

have u any other certificate that u can suggest 4 me??

plzzzzz. if u have any info., do not hesitate.i really need anyone who has info about license of engineering in other countries. i appreciate ur opinion.

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Re: FE Certificate

10/24/2010 6:26 PM

Never heard of it. Sounds like a scam to me.

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10/24/2010 6:44 PM

Not sure if I remember that well, but I thought that F of E was the official name for the EIT exam. EIT is a state certification based on the result of the F of E exam.

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10/24/2010 8:56 PM

I guessed you meant FE Exams by 'fundamental of engineering certificate'.

FE (Fundamental of Engineering) and PE (Principles and Practice of Engineering) are the two examinations that are required to pass for obtaining the Professional Engineering (PE) license for practicing the engineering profession (stamping the engineering design work and undertaking the accountability of the work by the engineer or the engineer's supervision) in US. The PE license is provided by the individual engineering professional body of the different States in US and the requirements for the PE license vary among the states. However, the two common requirements are the passing of FE and PE Exams and these exams are administered by the independent organization, NCEES (http://www.ncees.org). If someone passes the FE, he/she obtains the EIT (Engineering-In-Trainee) which is an intermediary designation and not any sort of professional license. In US, having PE license in one state doesn't allow doing practice in another state. Each state requires the license from its own body. However, having PE in one state in US helps obtaining it in another state. Engineers can work in engineering profession in US without the PE license but they can not stamp the engineering design work.

In Canada, the License is called P.Eng (Professional Engineer), while it is called Chartered Engineer in UK. However, the criteria of obtaining the license vary country to country.

Here is the detail of the FE and PE Exams: http://www.ncees.org/Exams.php

EIT is never considered as a license and doesn't help in engineering practice in US. It can help someone only in the way that the prospective employers get the feeling the candidate's 'license is in progress'. Other than this, I don't think EIT is beneficial for engineers working in other countries. However, if someone got PE license in US or P.Eng license in Canada, he/she can have some sort of temporary license in other countries (if there is such agreement) and I noticed some company in Middle East prefers the candidates having Professional or Chartered Engineering Licensing (not the EIT) in US or Canada or UK.

I obtained my PE in Texas (US) and P.Eng in Ontario (Canada). If you need to know specific requirement of these two organizations, here are their websites:

Texas Board of Professional Engineers: http://www.tbpe.state.tx.us

Professional Engineers Ontario: http://www.peo.on.ca

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10/26/2010 12:10 PM

There are protected practices however that you absolutely can not work in unless working under a licensed engineer, such as most of the practice of Civil engineering, and some electrical and mechanical engineering.If you have a license in some States you can work on some individual one-time projects in other States and apply for committy if you desire a license in the other States. Some states have special exams along with the natiaonal standard exam that must be fulfilled before Committy can be applied. So it is best to be selective about which States you receive you PE in, with regards to the States you plan to practice in for the sake of ease of committy.

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12/03/2012 7:39 PM

dear Mr Mohamed

sorry for disturb but i need some clarification

- PE credential have any advantage to get P.Eng like time , procedures ,...

- If i passed only FE exam , could i have advantage to work in Canada or getting P.Eng

- Is there are any different between P.Eng for Architect and P.Eng for other disciplines

Thanks for your time

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10/25/2010 8:18 AM

Passing the Fundementals Exam (formerly known as EIT) indicates that you are moving forward on a path to become a Registered Professional Engineer in the United States. Next you need to gain experience in the Principals and Practice of engineering before being allowed to take the second exam.

This exam has nothing to do with hiring requirements outside the US although should you pass the FE, you could show this on your resume in seeking employment outside the US.

Remember that even in the US, some States may not accept the results of tests taken in other States. If you pass New York or California, you can get any of the other States by reciprocity, but not necessarily vis-a-versa.

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10/25/2010 3:38 PM

then how can i appply for an engineering job in usa ???

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10/25/2010 6:51 PM

See in my earlier comment 'Engineers can work in engineering profession in US without the PE license but they cannot stamp the engineering design work', especially which are related to public safety. If a position requires PE License, it specifically mentions it in the job requirement and the candidates not having PE are not to be considered for this sort of position. There are various engineering positions opened in many companies that do not require PE licensing. If you see the job description of the position and feel you have all the requirements, you can apply for it and the employers pick the resumes considering the ones best fit for their requirement.

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10/26/2010 1:46 PM

Also, they are restricted to what recommendations may be made, the ability to sign contracts for certain types of engineering services, authority to manage certain types of engineering practice, and how they can work on some projects (must have a licensed supervisor to even work on some aspects design work or consultation such as certain types of master plans, municipal public works, or structural designs). In addition some US employers require an EIT to be classifed as a professional in Engineering, the US divisions of AECOM, CH2MHill, even URS, as well as most State, County and City agencies, are good examples of that (sometimes if the prices is right and the skills are substantial for the price, such employers local divisions, particularly private sector, will try to work something out or take a very broad interpretation of policies). The classification effects your pay scale. In addition many countries have a committy agreement with many US States registration programs, e.g. Canada, Australia/New Zealand (or so I have been told). The advantage of the FE is that you only need 6 working years experience with a FE to obtain a PE, versus something like 16 without. If you graduate from a ABET certified program (or the Canadian Equivalent) you can utilize your education to fulfill upto 4 years of that workign experience, non-ABET is like 2 or 3, and non-US is frequently nothing unless an approved program, which might be 2 years equivalency.

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10/26/2010 6:34 AM

Send your resume and any other qualifications to employers who are hiring. Try www.aecom.com. This is one of teh largest engineering consulting firms in the world.

Full disclosure, I work for AECOM.

As an aside, it would be a good idea to be a bit more professional in your communications. For example, use the spell check and do not use common internet abbreviations seen on chat sites and bulletin boards.

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10/26/2010 2:06 AM

Hi

Nope, not heard of this one, must be something for the USA, however I have heard of PE.

In the UK, to be an engineer you have to have an engineering degree from a recognized university or technical college, or Open University... NOT a postal degree.

You then progress to "associate member" then "member" of (for example) the Institute of electrical engineers, or mechanical engineers AFTER passing a selection board and passing further exams. This would allow you to place behind you name, MIEE or MIME etc. There is also the Institute of chartered Engineers, again a selection board and even more exams, this would allow you to place "CE" behind you name.

but that STILL does not give you the cudos to get a visa to enter the UK. The same for the EU and as for the Middle East, they like REAL degrees and now check ALL applicants and their documentation before issuing a visa.

So if I read you correctly you want to work in the USA or Europe or ME and hope that this FE certificate will get you that job... best of luck!

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10/26/2010 8:04 AM

Not to be insulting, I would recommend that you spend some honest time and effort in improving your communication skills. If you want to come to the USA you will need to have a better grasp of the English language. The same applies where ever you wish to apply. Text message shorthand is good for texting, but will not serve you well in a technical field. It may add some time to your quest, but you will be rewarded in the end.

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Re: FE Certificate

10/26/2010 1:29 PM

No! you do not need any certificate to do good job! you just have to know what you do best and seek employment to get best

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