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11/02/2010 4:36 AM

Hello Engineers :D I have heard recently about a technology which can reduce the Kilo watt ie. in active power...I was told it is a new technology and it is able to reduce the electricity bill up to 30%..has anyone heard of something like that?please help Thank you

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11/02/2010 4:55 AM

If you use 1KW of power you will have to pay for 1KW of power.
If you want to save money find the "OFF" switch!

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11/02/2010 5:07 AM

:D I told u it is a new technology.. I will check more and give you more info so u can check ur self

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11/02/2010 6:49 AM

Read this entire thread: Green Power Saver - Does this Work?

There is no free lunch.

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11/02/2010 7:48 AM

Hold on!

This could be an entirely new technology we haven't pulled apart YET!

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11/02/2010 8:45 AM

Damn, he's gonna give us more info! I was looking forward to spending a couple of days trying to figure out what he was talking about......back to work, I guess.

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The bookies shop is open!

11/02/2010 9:14 AM

The bookies shop is open!

Evens: we've seen it before

3 to 1: we've seen it before and ripped it apart

1,000,000 to 1: it will work.

I think my Monopoly money is safe

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11/02/2010 9:30 AM

All payment to be "Cash on the nail" or collateral. Collateral bets will only be accepted for Houses, Hotels, Racing cars, Top hats, Flat irons, Race horse.

With property prices at the moment "Old Kent Road" is worth Diddly Swatt!

Collateral bets, are be based on current market values.

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11/02/2010 1:40 PM

Wait, what are the odds it really is a "new" technology that we have not yet seen and torn apart, but once we do it will be as spurious and absurd as all the other "green energy" products?

I might place a small wager on that just for fun; I'll give 30:1 odds.

With no takers, I'll wager my 500 CR4$ on the 3:1 option, I can't think of another way to re-hash the same 3 or 4 scams out there.

Side note: I particularly enjoyed an exchange in another forum recently on one that, although I have seen before, makes me laugh every time. It's a coil of wire in an epoxy potted box that connects to either end of the same Neutral bus and is supposed to save 30% energy in a facility! Marvelously absurd, Monty Python would be proud...

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11/02/2010 3:35 PM

The other forum's scam pre dates Monty Python, I remember it from the very early 70's. It did work with a shaded pole meter so long as you got it the right way around, otherwise……..

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11/02/2010 4:42 PM

I think you are thinking of the Nola circuit, which was from the early 70's, I worked for one of the original adopters of that system. True, we sold a lot of them in places they were completely useless, but we did mange to find a few true energy saving applications. Bowling pin re-setters, mail handling machines and escalators. The commonality in all of those was the need to operate unloaded for long periods of time; bowling pin re-setters because they only engaged the clutch when someone knocked down pins, mail handlers because they would run waiting for mail to be routed to them, and escalators because they were required to be running unloaded even when nobody was around. But once those markets were saturated, it became next to impossible to sell one twice to the same customer. They could sell them once with the marketing fluff, but then the customers would learn the truth. The internet has caused a resurgence of those devices, but the truth remains the same, and just like you said earlier, "just turn it off" will work a lot more often.

But this latest thing is much newer. I don't want to lend any legitimacy to it by mentioning the name or website, but it claims to "reorganize the electricity" so that most of it returns to the utility and negates the metering. I'm not making this up, this is what they claim! Someone in the forum bought one, dissolved the epoxy and found two small coils of wire, not even a metal core, just coils like in an air coil reactor. But the laugher is the connection diagram. It has two wire leads, you attach one to the top of the Neutral bus, the other to the bottom of the same Neutral bus, and this thing is supposed to do some magic. Utterly laughable!

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11/03/2010 1:24 AM

That's how to make DIY without being too dangerous.

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11/03/2010 4:32 AM

I was promised to do my own experiment next week on my own machines and my own power meters...how would be that sure that I have a saving in energy? I may use power meters?Ampere meters? oscilloscope?

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11/03/2010 5:14 AM

Power usage will be charged by the supply company via a KWHr meter. So that is what you must use to get meaningful results.

Good luck!

But I still think my money is safe.

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11/03/2010 5:52 AM

The bookies shop is now closed!

Odds payable 3 to 1
(Non took me up on it, so I'll put the Monopoly set back on top of the wardrobe).

http://basantec.com/demo.html

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11/04/2010 10:11 AM

OMG, that site is hilarious! Lots of gems there... (emphasis added by me)

"You wonder how APSS does this magic!

APSS is equiped with capacitors that have been put through the process of an Ionic treatment, with a combination of special components and resources, which creates:

1. Superconductivity removing impurities and defects in the cabling network.

2. Negative resistance, which acts as a power source to the electric network."

I'm sorry, but can someone elucidate to me the meaning of "negative resistance"? Wouldn't that be conductance? How does conductance act as a "power source" to the network? The "network" is absolutely NOTHING without conductance, so is that what they are saying? Their unit is capable of being a conductor? Whoopee!!! Magic!!! And yes, I read their referenced Wiki article. I like how they tried to lend legitimacy to their claim by citing it, but apparently they didn't actually read it, or at least they assumed that their suckers er, "customers" would not.

"Wiki: Negative resistors are theoretical and do not exist ..."

Followed by this gem:

"Reduce Power Consumption by a minimum of 25%

Using the APSS will reduce power consumption without affecting the electrical load of the machines. "

This is such a crock of s#!t.

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11/03/2010 7:06 AM

I've got a sure fire, foolproof way to save electricity.

I spent yesterday cutting wood for the woodstove. Now that the cold weather is here, my electric bill runs about $45 a month. It really works!!!!!!!!!

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11/04/2010 10:20 AM

It's not "cold weather", it's a "negative heat event" and you have apparently discovered a way to reverse the effects of negative heat by a special ionic treatment of lignum based hydrocarbon storage media via thermo-chemical transference.

You should patent that... I'll be your marketing manager.

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