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Hi=Bread // Electric ... Archaic:

11/11/2010 10:51 AM

When I was 7 Years old... (60 Years ago...) I Had a model car, V.W. With a Wind Up Key on the Back! 3 Winds, would go all the way across the Livingroom! & I Had a little unknown Brand of car "With a Centrifugal Wheel Horizontal in the back above the drive wheels : Pushing it along the floor 3 times, when I set it down and let it go, Went all the way across the room!!! THE PUBLIC HAS BEEN "R E T A R D E D"!!!

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Re: Hi=Bread // Electric ... Archaic:

11/11/2010 10:54 AM

Somehow I am missing your point.

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11/11/2010 12:49 PM

My Point is: I'd rather use a windup System to operate my Vehicle, than PAY $3.00 / gallon of Petrol to go 10 Miles!!! The Wrist watch is a Great Example, of old smarter than new, in some cases. The Grandfather Clock Gets my respect! Gravitation on heavy objects pulling on chains that turn gears, to multiply the r.p.m. for turning generators A chain fall to lift the heavy objects. ( NO FUEL )

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11/11/2010 11:01 AM

Huh?

Are you trying to sell us wind up automobiles?

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11/11/2010 1:05 PM

Are you trying to sell us wind up automobiles?==========

If that will put an end to High Gas Prices. YES...

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11/11/2010 11:34 AM

Nostalgia time! Dad had a wind-up Schuco roadster (early 1950s) with steering and 3-speed + reverse gears. You couldn't steer or shift once the car was moving; you just set it and let it go. It was like the cream-colored ones in the pic: http://www.classicjack.com/contents/en-us/d57.html

(Adding to the play on words--hi-bread, high-bred, hybrid.)

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Re: Hi=Bread // Electric ... Archaic:

11/11/2010 12:55 PM

(Adding to the play on words--hi-bread, high-bred, hybrid.) --------<

Hybrid... I have always had a problem with spelling... Ever since the teacher tried to get me to Spell: Uv ... of ! ( A long time ago...)

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Re: Hi=Bread // Electric ... Archaic:

11/11/2010 11:36 AM

I assume what you're trying to get at is using stored mechanical energy to propel a full-sized passenger automobile.

From time to time this idea crops up. One touted method is to equip the car with a vacuum-enclosed flywheel which would be spun up when the car was parked somewhere and then later used to generate electricity for wheel motors.

The thing is, to make it a viable energy source it takes a lot of mass moving at a crazy rapid speed. So much so that the flywheel tends to tear itself apart. So it has to be super strong. And it must be EXTREMELY well-protected so that in a crash it can't kill everybody nearby. Think about the forces unleashed when a flywheel like that suddenly slammed to a halt! The shrapnel, man! Potentially killing or wounding people many yards away.

Even speculating wildly that in a "slow" crash fo a computer had time to apply some kind of braking to it, that's just about gotta be done via friction. Even if the materials existed that could do it, do you have any idea how much heat that would generate near-instantly?

And that's all ignoring the horrible torque that would fling the car body madly.

Pretty much those or similar arguments hold for any kind of mechanical energy storage methods for cars. But if you can think of workable solutions, please speak up.

As for me, I'll stick with nice, safe, explosive gasoline.

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11/11/2010 1:01 PM

As for me, I'll stick with nice, safe, explosive gasoline.___________________

How about Saki - ALCOHOL Made from RICE?

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11/11/2010 1:09 PM

Only a raving madman would pour perfectly good licquor into a car to burn it!

Would you use up perfectly good Scotch whiskey to drive to town? I should hope not!

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11/11/2010 1:44 PM

"How about Saki - ALCOHOL Made from RICE?"

Well, now we know you don't like sake. What else can you tell us about yourself?

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11/11/2010 10:38 PM

What else can you tell us about yourself? ~~~

Just say stop, when you have had enough...

I'm The Criminal Systems, Foe! "Supporter of the Civil System"

I am a Basic Liberal!

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Re: Hi=Bread // Electric ... Archaic:

11/11/2010 10:38 PM

What if i mounted a large propeller on the back of a car. And the propeller would spin as the car drives forward. The propeller could wind up a spring that could propel the car forward.

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Re: Hi=Bread // Electric ... Archaic:

11/11/2010 10:44 PM

Or Two Props,,, One Driven By the wind & the other Chain connected, Driving the vehicle Forward...

Perpetual Motion... NOT FOUND YET ! ! !

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Re: Hi=Bread // Electric ... Archaic:

11/12/2010 3:04 AM

All things considered, it's good to think outside the box once in a while lest we be guilty of tunnel vision. Ya gotta admit there were some good ideas in the past, however, they didn't make a lot of money and of course weren't always what we would consider today to be safe. Good to see the gears are still working and people are still thinking. I'm pretty sure we didn't advance in life and time just because we had a thumb.

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Re: Hi=Bread // Electric ... Archaic:

11/12/2010 9:59 AM

When I was a small child, I had a model airplane. It's airframe was built just like a real plane. Fabric covered metal. It was a beaut. It had a rubber band hooked to the frame and the prop. You would wind the rubber band up and let it fly. Since we lived on a hill that plane would go forever.

Finally, the rubber band broke. Fortunately, no one was injured when the plane crashed. And because of the unique power system, there was no fire.

Would I fly in a rubber band powered airplane today, even though they are fireproof?

Those were simpler times.

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