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CFL Motion Activated Lights

02/18/2011 9:32 AM

I recently installed Leviton motion activated light control on two light circuits. One has 3 CFL lamps the other 6, both on different circuits. I noticed flickering when the lights were off and the switch in the auto position. When the lights were on, switch in the auto position, my microwave oven, on a separate circuit, hums and shuts off after running about 10 seconds with timer set for 2 minutes. I discovered that this control shouldn't be used with electronic ballasts, after reading the instructions!! When the light switch is in the off or on, not auto, everything works normally. I replaced only 1 CFL with a standard incandescent in each light circuit and everything works normally, no flickering and microwave works.

I think that the switch has a little bleed through current so that the infrared motion sensor will work, that probably explains the flickering. Why when replacing only one CFL with an incandescent bulb everything works normally?

What is causing the microwave to react this way?

Will the incandescent bulb installed in each circuit create a potential hazard?

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Re: CFL lights

02/18/2011 9:45 AM

I had a similar problem trying to use an electronic "dashpot" (off-delay) unit, designed for lighting in a shared living area, to drive a laser. Adding a resistor in parallel with the laser supply to bleed of a few milliamps solved it.

Shouldn't be any problem with incandescents and CFLs on the same circuit.

No idea what caused the microwave oven problem.

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Re: CFL Motion Activated Lights

02/18/2011 10:34 AM

Just a caution: on/off cycles affect the life of a CFL bulb significantly--maybe you want to stick with incandescent lamps on your motion activated circuits.

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Re: CFL Motion Activated Lights

02/18/2011 8:02 PM

The branch circuit relies on a connection to neutral through the bulb and passes a small amount of current through the bulb, charging the capacitors in the electronic ballast. The CFL may not work with sensors and other sensitive devices on the circuit, unless an incandescent bulb is also connected. Using the other devices on the same circuit may also cause the CFL to flash when off. When I had my microwave on the same branch as my aerogarden, the bulbs would flicker when the microwave turned off and on. This can also be true for illuminated wall switches and motion sensors. Most CFL's will not work with light sensor devices, as in a "dusk to dawn" device. Cold cathode CFLs avoid many of these problems.

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Re: CFL Motion Activated Lights

02/19/2011 7:22 AM

Make shure that the live & neutrals are the correct way round as this can cause lights to flicker.

The micro is a mystery although if a neutral is reversed you could get a back feed through your fuse box

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Re: CFL Motion Activated Lights

02/19/2011 9:44 AM

Lose the CFLs and install incandescents.

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Re: CFL Motion Activated Lights

02/19/2011 6:19 PM

Correct. The tungsten element of the incandescent bulb provides the sensor power when off. It only takes a few milliamps and that won't even warm the filament. I have a number of motion sensor lights and you can get them to work with a bulb as small as 25 watts. Then the rest are CFL and all is good with the world.

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Re: CFL Motion Activated Lights

02/19/2011 9:09 PM

The sensor is most probably, as you say, A 2 wire device.

Use a sensor that is a 3 wire beasty.

AN to supply the Sensor Circuitry, and the 3rd a switched relay o/p to control your lights. Light loading taken into account, AC1 and AC3 switching. With the right size relay, supply the world.! No hassles.

Mark N.

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