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Why do we use GTAW/SMAW Welding on Large Pipe?

03/03/2011 9:28 PM

It's a norm for the industry to weld full GTAW for 2" and below CS/ SS pipes. However for pipes larger than 2" we would normally weld with GTAW for root and SMAW for fill and cap. Is there any particular reason? Is there any reason why we cannot use full GTAW for large pipes (4", 6") ?

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Re: Why do we use GTAW/SMAW WELDING on large pipe

03/03/2011 9:42 PM

GTAW is relatively slower than SMAW, so economics would be one reason to include SMAW in welding the larger pipe sizes. I think GTAW remains acceptable, though.

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Re: Why do we use GTAW/SMAW Welding on Large Pipe?

03/05/2011 12:05 AM

GTAW or TIG is a welding process characterized by its deep penetration which shall overcome most of weld faults related to 1st pass (burn-through, protrude, insufficient fusion, ... etc.) located at that critical area called "root", but GTAW is considered an expensive weld, so it will be more expensive if used to weld the full weldment.

Therefore we recommend using GTAW at least at root, and for fill & cap we use another process like SMAW in case of manual or SAW/GMAW in case of semi/full automatic welding process.

SAW is a welding process characterized by its heavy weld deposit due to using high amperage (may be reaches 500 ampere). and filler metal with higher diameter (may be reaches 12 mm). Therefore we recommend SAW (semi or full automatic) in case of mass production.

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Re: Why do we use GTAW/SMAW Welding on Large Pipe?

03/05/2011 8:29 AM

Comparatively GTAW, is much easier to control and can produce a very good weld quality especailly on the root (1st pass of welding).

It is very difficult to produce a good weld on the root pass which form an essential of weld quality and is the 1st pass that intact with the service medium. The deposited weld shall have a good workmanship internally i.e. the oposite side of the weld deposit side and shall be free from any harmful discontinuity (flaw) as required in the applicable codes and standards. The discountinuity occured on root can be the initial opening and consequently propagate to the failure of the joints under the dynamic or static load applied on the welded item during its services. Generally in order to avoid this risk of failure in achieving weld compliance to codes and standards requirements, we will select a process that able to deliver a better quality and lesser weld failure's welding process. And therefore, GTAW is often being used as the 1st and 2nd pass in making the weld joint and filling (other passes) with others welding process that is having a better (higher) depositing rate and higher productity, consequently economically e.g. SMAW, GMAW, SAW etc depending on other consideration factors.

Offcourse, GTAW can be used to weld the whole joints regardless of sizes as well if costs and productivity is not the concerns.

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Re: Why do we use GTAW/SMAW Welding on Large Pipe?

03/08/2011 10:19 AM

I very much agree with the idea of GTAW for the root pass, but what has been left out is to get a good quality root pass you should purge anywhere from 98% to 100% argon to prevent sugar/grapes whatever you want to call it and give that good quality interior results...

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