22.5 & 11.25 Degree MJ Bends

Read here, particularly post #9.

In plan view, the miter seams will appear as a sequence of ellipses, each with the relevant rotation (11.25°, 33.75°, 56.25°, 78.25°). This can be drawn precisely in CAD programs; in manual drafting one would use the closest ellipse templates.

If you are drawing this for a water main and the plan scale is 1"=20' or greater there is not real way to show the bend accuratly and it should appear on either the detail sheet, be submitted in shop drawing or not at all. The line thickness is larger then the pipe if you put your scale to it. On my plans an 8-inch DI pipe scales to be 18" wide, we just can not show the width to propper scale because the length scale are too great, this is resloved in the profile sheet were we can provide two diffrent scales hor and ver. At my work we ask for a leader with a starting station and call out the required bend

ie 2+53.4, 11.25 MJ Bend, Restrain X-ft.

Again this is for water mains and sheets can include up to 500 LF of pipe where the road width is only 30-50 ft. On plan view we can not have two seperate scaled for horz.

Mark, as you see we have three interpretations of your question.

Will we ever hear from you again?

there is no mention to the plane the bend is shown. when in doubt, call it out. cad has the abillity to detail too much. just indicate a bend and call it out. all three previous responces are correct.