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Challenged By Layman

03/30/2011 11:06 AM

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The standard recommend the insulation ressitance of 220V equipments measured shall not be less than 7 MOhm for 220V equiments. Could you teach me how to convince the laymen to aggreement with this figure. Even it is from standard but they still ask me why we dont use the much higher number for more safety?

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03/30/2011 12:19 PM

Cost!

First let me address why a standard should exist in the first place. The standard gives a minimum insulation required for the application. Cable manufacturers to guarantee that they meet this minimum will typically fabricate to slightly exceed this value so that as production produces standard deviations in the product, all deviations remain above this minimum threshold. This allows manufacturers to be able to produce a standard product line with a cited reference as to how the product should perform.

Now why the standard places this and actually most parameters at a particular number is much more difficult to explain. This is because the parameter is empirically set from failure incidents that have occurred in the past, not from any theoretical design. This is why standards (slowly) change over time, too. A presumption about how much protection is really required in an application can only be verified or refuted by real life testing.

As you would expect, there will be times and circumstances that an application should exceed the standard minimum requirements. Only an experienced designer will know when one should exceed the minimum standards. When these conditions warrant this though the customer should expect to pay a little more.

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03/30/2011 1:23 PM

Redfred, that is a very good explanation of a sometimes confusing issue.

Your explanation is also applicable to my little corner of the construction business, so I hope you do not mind if I offer a form of your response to my occasional customer or design professional who will ask, in essence, the same question as our OP.

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03/30/2011 1:42 PM

I'm happy that I can help Lyndoor industries or any of your more reputable firms in any fashion. Feel free to use my analysis.

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03/30/2011 5:12 PM

This is a competitive world, changing to a higher safety value simply means increasing the cost of the product and an unnecessarily expensive product becomes unpopular.

To be competitive the manufacturers must follow the minimum requirements in a standard product and if a particular customer desires something better that is provided at an additional cost.

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04/01/2011 6:53 AM

British Standard 7671.

7MΩ seems rather low.

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04/01/2011 7:40 AM

This is from PAT and is not intent to applied for equipment manufacturer since it is just a recommendation. I think the manufacturer may have higher rate.

As my respect to Redfred answer, the issue should be closed off.

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