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04/30/2011 1:08 PM

Need information about how practical it is to have a plastic rod which has threads that can be screwed into a plastic block that also has threads; all part of the sand castle project - molds that have sand inside to be pushed out in various shapes. The mold's roof would have to be adjusted; no longer would a plate be involved I am having trouble getting a picture.

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04/30/2011 1:13 PM

Sorry, no idea what you are on about! Maybe a web link could give us an idea!

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05/01/2011 12:43 AM

Hopefully this picture might help. As one can see the rods are tapped to the plastic plate. A friend and I tried the original sand castle at the beach. It worked for awhile; (the complete kit is not shown here.) and then, as you can see , the rod and plates became useless. Rod inserted into block by some means perhaps could work?

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05/01/2011 1:28 AM

I spelled out "tapped." I should have written "taped." I am not sure about how the term "off topic applies in this case.

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04/30/2011 1:57 PM

I'd use non-threaded rod bonded into a blind hole in the block. Threads are a natural weakness, especially in plastics.

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05/01/2011 1:38 AM

Thanks. I actually forgot what the original Forum Thread was. I tried to get a separate picture of just a rectangular mold and the bandaged rod & plate but no luck. I will try to send another picture:

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05/09/2011 11:08 AM

Hi,

I have seen posts on this topic for months (years?). This is the first time that a picture has come through. Your molds won't work with sand, as the drag effect from attempting to push the plate out will deform wet sand/collapse dry sand. You simply need to make your molds with detachable sides, form your piece, and place it against your existing structure.

Similar molds are manufactured to cast plaster castle components, they are made from soft rubber to bend away from your finished piece and allow release without breakage. Yours will need to be harder since your material of choice never sets, while still allowing release. try a stiff rubber shell, made of three pieces for the sides and top, with a light texture inside to help the release. Make each mold in three parts that interlock but can be removed one by one when placing the finished part.

Hope this helps, pictures could have solved this a long time ago.

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05/10/2011 2:34 AM

Looking thru my binder on sand castles I do find a patent which reminds me of what you are saying. The page is called Patent Storm and has information about a molding chamber for green sand molds - US Patent 6463993.

I am not sure about green sand molds. On another page is one called Familytime. They mention using Nesquik container molds and the use of wet sand.

My trip to the beach with the sand molds that I had worked for awhile with wet sand as I remember.

Well, anyway.

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04/30/2011 2:16 PM

After several recurrent threads on this topic, no solution has been reached, so maybe it isn't really practical, after all.

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05/01/2011 9:47 PM

Quite the PUN master you are.

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04/30/2011 3:12 PM

Only you can figure out how practical this is. Are you going to try and push 200lbs of sand with a 3/32 piece of plastic? Pulling against plastic threads are usually more the issue, rather than pushing.

Go get a couple of chunks of UHMW, Delrin, or something... and go to town. Drill tap and die. You may break a few pieces engineering it, but so what. It's cheap.

I will say that I shove all kinds of things around with UHMW rods and plates and it works fine ...straight on. Plastic rod doesn't do well with side loads.

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04/30/2011 10:42 PM

Which size is the plastic rod? Which size are the threads?

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05/01/2011 12:26 AM

Here is a picture of the parts. I am not sure how to give the size of the threads

As you can see, the rods attached to the plates did not hold up too well. Lots of suggestions have been offered, eg. a nail thru a wooden plate to be secured to a wooden rod, just a loose plate and rod, etc. You can see the plastic rods and plates here in the picture, wrapped with tape. It worked for awhile and then it became sort of a useless project at one of the beaches at Santa Cruz.

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05/01/2011 2:22 AM

the sand will have to have a high degree of water content to be extrudable - or it will jam in the system and the plastic will not be able to exert enough force. This is much like earth in the barrel making a gun explode In addition sand in such a threaded mechanism will soon bring things to a halt.

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05/02/2011 10:18 AM

You can buy internally threaded brass inserts that expand and grip into a plastic hole. Screwing in a plastic rod is then not a problem.

Google "brass inserts for plastic"

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05/02/2011 7:34 PM

Thank you.

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