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Insulation Resistance Test For Wye Connected Generator

06/29/2011 10:18 PM

Hi all,

I have currently a 4 wire, 6 leads - 3 phase wye connected generator and i am intending to perform insulation resistance test on the generator.

I manage to get the IR test readings for Phase1/2/3 - Ground.

However , for the insulation resistance test between the phases ( i.e Phase 1 - 2 , phase 1 - 3 etc ). I am constantly getting 0 ohmn.

What could be the problem causing this?

Btw, I have already removed the neutral point of the generator

Can any kind souls advise please?

Urgent ! As i am doing th eload test soon !

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06/29/2011 11:34 PM

Ahem. I presume that you get zero ohms with a megger because you were just testing for insulation resistance. If you look at a Wye wiring diagram, you should easily see why you have a low resistance between phases.

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06/30/2011 3:21 AM

I am agree with redfred,

If you are testing insulation resistance of a star connected generator with the isolated neutral, the insulation tester will never show a reading of 0 Ohm until and unless there is any short-circuit between the phases. I think you have forgot to isolate the neutral.

But if you have isolated the neutral, then remove all connections of all 6 leads and measure insulation resistance between the phases and ground.

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06/30/2011 2:16 PM

"But if you have isolated the neutral, then remove all connections of all 6 leads and measure insulation resistance between the phases and ground"

Our OP has already tested 3 phases to ground and from what I can see got good readings. He does now need to split the star point to test between phases.

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06/30/2011 10:44 PM

I assume you have a 3-terminal insulation tester . . . Hi - Lo - Guard.

Also assume that all your 3 phases - with 6 leads are disconnected from ground.

SO, to test between phase A to B, connect A to Hv, . . B to Lo, everything else to Guard and ground it.

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07/02/2011 4:14 AM

hi,

greetings from India,

6 leads mean R (r1r2),Y (y1,y2) B (b1,b2)

1. you have tested Ph- Earth and got values( hope those are acceptable as you have not mentioned them (above 20 M ohm))

2. do you have removed N link between r2-y2-b2 ?

if so then you must get good IR between r1 & y1, y1 & b1 and b1 & r1.

if this shows '0' M ohm then there must be inter turn fault (or due to heavy moisture content)

Otherwise check the set for residual voltage by removing excitation.

this must be balanced and equal P-P and P-n wise.

if this test is ok then you may start the set.

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