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Cable Thermal Withstand

07/10/2011 7:24 AM

Dears ;

kindly i need your aid in how to determine the maximum restrictions in time and current for electrical cables and thus in choosing the let thru energy of the corresponding breakers.

eg. what is the maximum current that a 4mm2 cupper cable can hold for a certain time (thermal energy that can pass) ,from where can i get these data ??

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Re: Cable Thermal Withstand

07/10/2011 9:16 AM

Refer to your local regulation!

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07/10/2011 10:58 AM

What is cupper cable? There are English spell-checkers. Did you know that?

eg. what is the maximum current that a 4mm2 cupper cable can hold for a certain time (thermal energy that can pass) ,from where can i get these data ??

http://www.powerstream.com/Wire_Size.htm

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Re: Cable Thermal Withstand

07/10/2011 3:23 PM

From your local electrical standards, regulations and cable manufacturer websites.

All of the requirements and de-rating factors (specific to your local electrical codes and application) are available there.

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07/10/2011 4:52 PM

When in doubt check here

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07/10/2011 10:20 PM

Excellent. I had seen that publication before, but forgot the title and publisher. Thanks for bringing it back to mind.

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Re: Cable Thermal Withstand

07/11/2011 8:20 PM

All of the foregoing are absolutely correct. I add one more. Sizing a wire too tight, because code allows it is more often than not, idiotic.

The most pernicious example is a 480V 200A feeder to my floor. It was undersized, more exactly, it was used with less power before, that somebody - in his infinite wisdom - put the higher load on it. The cable was quite warm - within specs - and I saw it on infra. The trouble developed on my floor's feeder's main breaker. Oxidization at the screw-on contacts of the breaker was not controllable. The workaround and replacement did cost many $100thousands and a year and half work of a couple of people, including me.

Cost effective? NAH, not on your life!!

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Re: Cable Thermal Withstand

07/27/2011 10:30 AM

The formula is K2S2 = I2t

where,

S = Conductor Cross-section, in sq.mm

I = Fault Current, in Amperes

t = Fault Duration, in seconds

K = Adiabatic Constant

= 115 for PVC/Copper

= 143 for XLPE/Copper

= 76 for PVC/ ALuminium

= 92 for XLPE/Aluminium

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