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Gaps in Stacked Rotor - Stacking by Shaft Shrinking

07/11/2011 9:59 AM

Hi every body... I seek your assistance in analytically analysing one problem we are facing in the stacking of armature lamination on shaft. Both the lamination and the shaft is without key way; and the laminations are stacked on to the shaft; by following process.. 1. Shaft is thermally cooled by immersing in the liquid nitrogen; which brings down the shaft diameter below the diameter of bore in lamination 2. Laminations are stacked to the required corelength in a mandrel; and stacking is inserted onto the shaft. However; in some of the stacked aramtures; the stacked corelength are seen to develop gaps; along the periphery of the rotor; after the shaft comes back to ambient temperature. But this phenomenon is not noticed in all stacked armatures. Tolerances presently are as below: 1. Lamination : 78 +0.03 h7, 2. Shaft : 78 +0.048 to 0.062 (Shrinked by Nitrogen cooling, prior to shaft pressing) Shaft Material : EN8 Lamination Grade : M45/ M43. Is it possible to correlelate the effects of the variation in bore dimensions of shaft and stacked laminations; to the observed gaps in the stacking; by analysis. And find out the best possible tolerance for the shaft, from this analysis. Any link to relevant literatures.

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Re: Gaps in Stacked Rotor - Stacking by Shaft Shrinking

07/11/2011 10:13 AM

Is it possible foreign matter is getting between the laminations causing the gap? Is the gap always in the same place on the shaft, or does it occur at different, random locations?

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07/11/2011 10:34 AM

Hi.,

Thanks for your remarks.

No; the gaps as shown are found in random locations; along the periphery of the rotor.

In some cases the stacked rotor is in good condition.

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07/11/2011 11:31 AM

Looking at the photographs I think you should be considering putting a compressive load on the stack.

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07/11/2011 12:05 PM

Most probably this is due to the expansion in shaft length, as its temp increases and diameter reaches in tight fit zone it fragment some off laminations and create those random gaps, Leaving stack in compressed condition untill the temp of whole Assembly is not in equilibrium may solve problem.

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07/12/2011 3:26 AM

Nice judgement, equally nice suggestion, GA. However the cooling rate is very high when dipped in liquid nitrogen (-196 degC), it may cause uneven cooling some times. Outer surface cools very fast, inner side is cooled by conduction. Increase in length will be appreciable only when inside is also cooled. So, cooling time is important. May be OP is finding gaps when it is cooled for longer time.

OP can experiment cooling with dry ice (-78 degC), but it takes longer time (minimum 6 hours) for favourable result.

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07/12/2011 6:59 AM

This does NOT look like a problem of axial expansion of the shaft as it warms up (eg a gap caused by the shaft expansion from the point at which it grips the lamination bore). It looks like its caused by the CHANGE IN ORIENTATION of the laminations (eg adjacent laminations stacked 'face' to 'face', or 'back' to 'back' at that point), which results in the slight conical form produced by the lamination reaching a stress balance (which will occur in its most "natural" direction), caused by shaft expansion pushing out the lamination bore.

The amount of coning will depend on the amount the bore is expanded.

Try ensuring all laminations are assembled in the same orientation (or the two halfs of the stack naturally coning inwards)

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07/12/2011 11:17 PM

You could check for this cone condition by sticking shim gauges into the gap and seeing whether it gets more and more narrow towards the shaft.

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07/12/2011 7:32 AM

You may also like to check the concentricity of the shaft. If this changes suddenly, it may cause the gap seen. could you give the dimension of the gap? From the picture it looks to be quite big. Is the stack inserted on the rotor in pressed condition? You may like to increase the pressure and maintain the same till shaft attains room temperature.

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