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Treatment for Brass Laser Welding Joint

08/11/2011 4:00 AM

Hi all, we welding brass ( Cu 59%, Zn 40%,Pb 1%) by laser welding. After welding, the joint should meet the requirment of 10 days ammonia test from UL: there should be no cracks in the welding joints observed by X25 magnifier. Our welding penetration is about 1mm. And there is a sealant of PTFE, so we could not relief the stress by heattreatment.We want to brush a layer of paint on the surface to protect the joint from ammonia corrosion. Do anyone have some experiance on that? Could you help us find any other solution? thanks!

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Re: treatment for brass laser welding joint

08/11/2011 4:16 AM

Brass + ammonia = big no-no. Why would anyone try to do this?

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08/11/2011 4:27 AM

Thanks for your comments! But our current product is brass welding and it must meet the requirment of UL: after 10days ammonia test, there is no crack observed by magnify. Am I right that it is impossible to pass the test if we welded the brass by laser welding? Heatreatment and painting is no hleping for this?

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08/11/2011 10:21 AM

I misunderstood your context, and was thinking more of long-term exposure.

But wouldn't painting the joint defeat the purpose of the test?

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Re: Treatment for Brass Laser Welding Joint

08/12/2011 8:16 AM

I am curious as to the application. Brass is not one of the readily welded materials for the Laser process. I assume the weld is autogenous and there may be the reason you are experiencing cracks. Are you bound to the laser process by specification or code? There are probablly better weld processes available should you have the option.

What specificlly is the application for the weldment?

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08/15/2011 9:40 PM

We choose laser weld brass because of it's low heat input. There is a seal gasket near the welding joint and the gasket will be failed if the temperature higher than 200 degree. So we choose laser welding.

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08/16/2011 5:02 AM

Low heat input is a good reason to select laser welding, but why not use projection welding at about 1/10 the cost and similar heat input?

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08/16/2011 9:01 PM

It's a good idea. But our parts is pre-assembly by threads, and the two parts could not have relative motion in the welding process. The pre-assemlby is to assure one specification for our parts, so I think it is not a proper method for our parts. All our competers weld this joint by TIG or plasma. The joint is stronger than ours.

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Re: Treatment for Brass Laser Welding Joint

08/12/2011 9:35 AM

Attack of brass by ammonia will be more rapid in locations under tensile stress which could be your fusion or HAZ. Those locations should be protected from ammonia.

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Re: Treatment for Brass Laser Welding Joint

08/12/2011 11:49 AM

Caution! You must consider the severity involved in the use of your part. Before ammonia test, does the part already present crack under 25X magnification? If so, the part should be rejected. If not, it would be dangerous hide welded region with a layer of paint to try pass it in the test, because when in use, this layer might come loose and having residual stresses or micro-cracks, this brass in presence of ammoniacal environments and mechanical tensions can easily suffer stress corrosion cracking.

It would be better if you relieve the stress by heat treatment (170 ºC / 10 h).

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