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Strength of Conical Thread?

08/22/2011 5:33 AM

Hi! First, let me appologize if I put some wrong term in the question, English is not my mother tongue, so I might have errors here.

I want to use a conical thread DIN 158 on my design, but can't find any info how to calculate this kind of threads that don't have a constant diameter (since I believe there is a difference between normal parallel threads and this conical one). How can I calculate if this thread is appropriate for my design if I got the axial force that would be on the threaded part?

The length of the thread is limited and this should be another thing I should somehow check, cause the length is also one component that defines how much this thread can carry.

Thx for your help in advance.

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Re: Strength of conical thread?

08/22/2011 6:08 AM

Hi JuzerNejm101,

This is a Metric Conical Thread (we use the term Metric Taper Thread) used mainly in Germany.

It is used for pressure applications on pipework, is this your application?

If it is you, would be better to consider using a parallel thread.

If you must use a taper thread may I suggest you consider BSPT (British Standard Pipe Taper) or for the USA NPT (National Pipe Taper).

This is not a definitive answer but something for you to consider with regards to your application.

The more information you can give on your application the greater the help this forum will be able to give.

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Re: Strength of conical thread?

08/22/2011 6:32 AM

Thx for the reply.

I'm familiar with the use of the thread.
What I'm trying to find/do, but had no luck into doing so is how to calculate if the tapered thread (with its limited length) can be used in my design.
The information I got are the axial force on the bolt and the material.

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Re: Strength of conical thread?

08/22/2011 7:07 AM

Hi JuzerNejm101,

Try putting "tensile strength of threads" into Google. There are several answers, one of which might be of help.

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Re: Strength of conical thread?

08/22/2011 7:33 AM

Have been running through it. But don't know if this applies on tapered threads the same way as on parallel threads.

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Re: Strength of Conical Thread?

08/22/2011 8:59 AM

I don't know if this will help at all, but: Techfacts. This is oil well stuff.

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Re: Strength of Conical Thread?

08/22/2011 11:03 PM

A tapered thread gains by coming to a very close tolerance, so you might try adding up each thread as if it was part of a precision assembly of the same but constant diameter. Usually, only one or two threads take most of the load, due to the difference in elasticity between the male and female parts. To get the lightest, smallest parts, you taper the thickness of the material backing up the threads so that each thread carries the same load. A drawing of a cross-section of the thread and parts can be analyzed by FEA if you have it available, or guesstimated reasonably well.

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Re: Strength of Conical Thread?

08/23/2011 8:26 AM

Excuse me for asking. Are you going to apply some kind of pulling motion on this thread? What size thread? Fine thread offers the best results, regular (parallel) thread is better. Why use tapered thread? tapered thread is used mostly on piping and plugs.

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Re: Strength of Conical Thread?

08/24/2011 9:15 AM

Taper Threads (or Pipe Threads) are used when you want to seal against fluids and not have leaks. Used in drain plugs, half couplings, lubrication lines, pipes etc.

If your requirement is strength, you will have to use straight threads, preferably fine pitch and high tensile alloy steels, suitably heat treated.

You can find innumerable literature, to calculate the different types of strength rating for threads including Machinery's Handbook for example

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