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Electric, Pneumatic or Hydraulic Lug Crimper

08/24/2011 9:10 PM

Hi Folks, I have run across a dilemma. I need to crimp lugs on wires from 20ga to 4/0.

I don't mind 20ga to 12ga with my manual crimper. Anything beyond this becomes a real chore at my age. I am looking for recommendation's for a crimper that makes my life easier. But it must Crimp the lugs the way I like them crimped. Hand held is what I am looking at due to constraints on wire lengths. Some of the wires are short in an enclosure laying flat horizontally, it is a real PITA to crimp the lugs as it is now manually.

I want to simply push a button, pull a trigger, squeeze a lever to make the crimp. I have air available so I can do air or air over hydraulics or I can do electric (battery) operated. What I would like to know is what has anyone used that works and works well. I don't want to blow 11ty billion dollars on something that doesn't work.

So please cut to the chase and let me know what you have used and how happy you are with it. I will be crimping terminals almost everyday until this business takes off and I can get back to engineering new systems and have some young buck make the crimps.

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08/25/2011 12:37 AM

Hydraulic crimper is the answer, we use it successfully & easily.

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08/25/2011 1:37 AM

This is OT, but I just have to say that "Real guitar players don't trust bass players who use picks"

I am not an electric person, but pritam is pretty sharp on this stuff!

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08/25/2011 5:54 AM

Have you got the crimps?
No, I always walk this way.
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(Sorry, but there is just something funny about the word crimps)

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08/25/2011 9:01 AM

Try Burndy or Tyco for crimpers that would do what you want.

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08/25/2011 11:06 PM

Depends so much on the quantity to be done.

In our production line we used electric/hydraulic crimpers. It was a self contained electric pump deal with a close/open valve.

However, I have seen manual hydraulic crimpers routinely used in the field for 4/0 and larger. Speed is not so critical when you are only doing half a dozen.

I have seen Greenlee crimpers used in the field. I think the main tool is about $2500 and dies in the $75 range. Try Amazon or E-Bay or the local pawn shop (stolen?).

(I just recently bought a special crimping tool for SCR leads connections. Tyco wanted about $2000. I got it on E-Bay for $180 used. It was in perfect working order!)

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08/25/2011 11:38 PM

I use a harbor freight hydraulic crimpers up to 2/0 and I believe they have additional dies for larger gage wire. I have been using mine on heavy duty battery packs for golf carts and solar battery storage for our solar panels. As you need to keep good clean connections that means fresh terminals every now and then, when you catch corrosion.I believe I only spent around 85-95 dollars when I caught it on sale. I remember a friend told me he modified a set of the smaller dies to crimp larger cabling then the dies that come with it. Just a thought. Duke

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08/26/2011 12:59 AM

Hi All, I am looking at Burndy, TE and Huskie. Huskie is winning$$ wise, weight 8.3 lbs, Burndy PATM6D-14 is looking good @ 7 Lbs, TE is in the running, waiting for a quote. Burndy and Huskie are around the same at $2100.00 Huskie is 8 Tons, Burndy is 6 Tons. I need this to be hand held as I am crimping inside the casting mounted to the motor and want tight wiring if anyone takes off the cover, wiring must be neat. Just can not get that with a hand manuel crimper where I have to set up 2 12" x 24" blocks to get the crimper inside then lean into it pushing and pulling with all my 150 lbs on the handle. The only issue I may have is none of the crimper's are UL, cUL or IEC rated. We seem to be shipping more products out of the country than domestically. Not sure if this is an issue yet. Jury is still out on this.

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08/26/2011 10:57 AM

As I recall the lugs will be certified with a list of acceptable crimpers.

In the 80's the CEC changed introducing the issue of lug and crimp tool pairing. We had test sections for the lugs, cable, and crimp and that was deemed OK.

The problem was 4/0 TEW superflexible cable uses an over size lug and must be crimped tighter with an undersized die to achieve the required pullout and electrical crimp.

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08/26/2011 2:37 AM

To be honest with you I do not have to use much more then two fingers on the harbor freight unit that I use. even on the largest connectors I do not have to really strain to crimp and for around 100.00 dollars I do not see any cost comparison to think about that is even close The unit I have I have used for two years and use it all the time at home and on the road for work on security control panels and battery back up systems for large scale security systems and access control systems. I normally do not buy harbor freight tools unless it is a one time use tool that I will only use once because I modified the tool to use it on an odd application. But I must say this tool surprised me with its reliability. Duke

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08/26/2011 9:17 AM

For large cable size #6 AWG to 500 MCM we use T&B rechargable battery crimper.

TBM8 Dieless tool, it costs around 5K but it works great, no changing of dies needed.

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08/26/2011 11:06 AM

I have made easy to use and very effective and inexpensive sets of crimpers from various sizes of bolt cutters. Some are so small as to be useable with one hand. They have remarkable leverage and can crimp nearly anything. The trick is to grind down the crimp surfaces until they just give the desired shape crimp when fully closed. -Illya

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