Previous in Forum: Star Delta Starter For a 500 KW Motor   Next in Forum: Ultrasonic Power Transducer Driver for Ultrasonic Cleaning
Close
Close
Close
5 comments
Rate Comments: Nested
Participant

Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 4

Stepper Motor Selection

09/14/2011 9:45 PM

I want to interface two motors with a microcontroller. The first stepper motor carrying a payload of 8kg. and the second motor carrying a payload of 4kg.

I'm assuming a full step stepper motor. I want to rotate the first stepper motor to 7.2 deg in 0.2 sec then the second stepper motor to 3.2 deg in 0.1 sec.

For these cases how can I select the proper stepper motor for my application? How can I select the step rate? What is the required rpm? And is holding torque necessary?

Register to Reply
Interested in this topic? By joining CR4 you can "subscribe" to
this discussion and receive notification when new comments are added.
Guru
Popular Science - Biology - New Member Hobbies - Musician - New Member APIX Pilot Plant Design Project - Member - New Member Hobbies - CNC - New Member Fans of Old Computers - ZX-81 - New Member

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Centurion, South Africa
Posts: 3921
Good Answers: 97
#1

Re: Stepper Motor Selection

09/15/2011 1:06 AM

The step rate is achieved by the rate and number of pulses fed into the stepper controller. Each pulse will result in a preselected step.

A 555 is a candidate to supply a rate.

Note that Stepper motors with a build in/on controller are available.

What do you intend to drive the motion from ?

It is possible to drive up to 4 steppers at different rates from a computer via the printer port.

__________________
Never do today what you can put of until tomorrow - Student motto
Register to Reply
Member

Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 5
#3
In reply to #1

Re: Stepper Motor Selection

09/16/2011 3:07 AM

Is the software to run four steppers from the parallel port readily available?

Will appreciate if a link is provided

Thanks

dulhas

Register to Reply
Guru
Popular Science - Biology - New Member Hobbies - Musician - New Member APIX Pilot Plant Design Project - Member - New Member Hobbies - CNC - New Member Fans of Old Computers - ZX-81 - New Member

Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Centurion, South Africa
Posts: 3921
Good Answers: 97
#4
In reply to #3

Re: Stepper Motor Selection

09/16/2011 6:01 AM

http:\\www.machsupport.com/

__________________
Never do today what you can put of until tomorrow - Student motto
Register to Reply
Guru
Engineering Fields - Electrical Engineering - Been there, done that. Engineering Fields - Control Engineering - New Member

Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Long Island NY
Posts: 15600
Good Answers: 981
#2

Re: Stepper Motor Selection

09/15/2011 10:27 AM

Go back to fundamental kinematics. You say that these two payloads will be 8kg and 4kg respectively, well how will they move? If the two masses will just be spun on the end of the motor shafts with the center of mass of these loads in line with the axis of rotation of the motor, then the kinematic calculations will be fairly easy. You will just have to make a moment of inertia calculation or estimate from a known similar geometric shape. Clearly in this case the 8kg load will require a larger minimum size motor than the 4kg load.

If instead the center of mass of these payloads will be offset from the motor's axis of rotation then you will have to consider the difference in the lever arm lengths for the masses involved. If the 4kg center of mass is 5cm away from the axis, while the 8kg center of mass is only 1cm away from the axis then the 4kg mass will require the larger minimum size motor. Don't forget that if these masses now have any elevation changes in their travel you should also include the added effect of raising and lowering these masses.

If instead these two motors will be moving linearly instead of rotationally, you will have to translate the kinematics of linear motion to the circular motion at the motor shaft. This can be just a simple rope wrapped around a diameter shaft (winch configuration) or a threaded rod stage assembly.

Now that you've identified how the masses motion will be translated to the rotational load on the motor, you must identify the velocity and acceleration components you desire for these masses. Translate these motion parameters back to forces and momentum loads that your motor shaft will see. Now you can select a motor with a certainty that you do understand the forces required.

Instead you can just choose a motor and driver at random and hope that everything is big enough to move things fast enough but cheap enough for your budget.

__________________
"Don't disturb my circles." translation of Archimedes last words
Register to Reply
Guru

Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1753
Good Answers: 59
#5

Re: Stepper Motor Selection

09/16/2011 1:43 PM

Depending on the mechanical configuration, holding torque may be necessary. The inertia of the load does not disappear, when the drive to the stepper stops. How many more steps will the load move on its own, before stopping? The stepper's positioning information is lost then.

Worm screw gearing is self locking from the load. Loss of drive will not drop (or some such) the load in an uncontrolled fashion.

Using a controller, in the final account, you do not select select the stepper rate. Ramp up, moving speed, ramp down is what is selected. Remember, inertia prevents sudden changes in load's speed.

IF this supposed to be a directly coupled rotary table, the few kg load will set up interesting oscillations, and resonances, with guaranteed cogging. Detailed mechanical calculations are necessary.

Register to Reply
Register to Reply 5 comments
Copy to Clipboard

Users who posted comments:

dulhas (1); Hendrik (2); leveles (1); redfred (1)

Previous in Forum: Star Delta Starter For a 500 KW Motor   Next in Forum: Ultrasonic Power Transducer Driver for Ultrasonic Cleaning

Advertisement