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Dead Battery--Can't Open Hood!

09/29/2011 11:16 PM

I have a used mercedes-benz(2003 C230K, with 59K miles) with a dead battery which I MAY be able to recharge,IF I can get the hood open (NEVER buy a used European car, UNLESS you are wealthy and have too much money, or are senile--I'm retired and must the latter)! Perhaps I could charge the battery if I use one of the "through the cigarette-lighter" chargers? The inability to open the hood may be a seperate issue than the battery, because It hasn't had to be charged to open it, the last time I replaced the battery, although the "manual-key" has to be used to open the doors, if the battery's dead. I just don't drive it, so this is a battery that has, maybe 500 miles on it, but may be a year old. One would EXPECT a luxury car of ANY origin to last longer, be "better" than lesser makes, but then "lesser" is only relative, as the M-B used to be the "taxis" and the "Chevrolets" of Europe. Somehow I think a Chevy'd treat me better. Please help. I'm in Foreclosure, could be moved-out at any time and don't want to leave the car behind as I'm still paying for it.

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Re: dead battery--can't open hood!

09/29/2011 11:29 PM

I'd write a book, if I were you.

I'd call it, "The Shit%%iest Car Ever That Isn't a Chevy Citation".

If your hood has a manual release, the battery can't help.

You provide no useful information.

Give more detail.

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Re: Dead Battery--Can't Open Hood!

09/30/2011 4:55 AM

You could charge the battery via the cigarette lighter. You need to turn the ignition on and leave it on to create a circuit to the battery from the cigarette lighter.

The car battery needs to be charged regularly to keep it viable. There are a number of different bits n pieces that require a little bit of battery power to keep alive.

Tho older cars didn't have them and the batteries were different too.

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09/30/2011 1:02 PM
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09/30/2011 5:47 AM

Might try the owners manual looking for the manual release.

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09/30/2011 6:43 AM

Is this information of any help

http://www.aclassinfo.co.uk/mypage.22.htm

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09/30/2011 10:50 AM

That's a lot of information on how to open the hood of a car!

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09/30/2011 8:29 AM

Oxyacetylene torch?

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09/30/2011 2:21 PM

A question like that posted by anon? Sure wouldn't want to have my name on it either.

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09/30/2011 2:28 PM

It's OK. The OP admits to being senile. Maybe he couldn't remember his name in the heat of battle.

Probably won't remember posting here either.

I can make fun of them because I'm well on the way in my journey to senility, myself.

Where are my teeth???

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09/30/2011 10:39 PM

One of the advantages of becoming older and forgetful is that when your older and forgetful friends repeat themselves and tell the same story again, it's still as funny as the first time you heard it!

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10/01/2011 7:47 AM

Not to mention the wife, it's like sleeping with a different woman every day

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10/01/2011 3:24 AM

There're two questions in the original post: how do I open the hood; how can I charge the battery with the hood closed? Answers 7 & 4 tell Anon how to open the hood and s/he can then use a conventional charger. The cigarette lighter charger can work but I'll bet anything Anon will have trouble finding the right kit and then trouble getting it to work with the key in the right position.

There are so may solutions to this: searching online, calling a Merc dealership, or just paying a mechanic to nip round & sort it that asking here seems bizarre. And that's a clue. Personally I suspect that Anon is under so much stress from the forclosure that s/he's just not thinking. Hope it works out Anon.

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10/01/2011 5:27 AM

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10/01/2011 9:43 AM

Often 'being too clever by half' puts you directly in the soup.

You thought that the bank having used TARP money meant something other than that they had too pay it back? Really? You are trying to save money and paying a shyster to help you and all he does is string you along to keep the counter running?

Using the lighter socket will take a few seconds less than forever - unless you turn up the amps and manage to fry the car wiring - 12 volts with a small cable.

You really should start looking for the other card - playing with a deck of 51 isn't all that much fun.

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Re: Dead Battery--Can't Open Hood!

10/01/2011 6:27 AM

1.cigarette lighter too, surely

2.manual release

3.scrap yard

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10/01/2011 7:01 AM

You may have a further problem, in that the alternator is not charging properly (assuming that you have remembered to drive the car during the 500 miles since the new battery was installed).

Was the alternator checked, or did you simply decide to replace the battery without a proper test?

Do you only drive a few miles back and forth and never give the battery time to properly charge up, combined with all the extras that a Merc has can mean that the battery gets emptied quickly....buy a quality battery charger if that is the case......cheap ones without proper charge control ruin the battery even quicker!!!

You are the first US citizen that I have heard of that does not like his Merc!!!! No matter how old it is!!

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10/01/2011 7:53 AM

i have a couple of trucks I don't use much

I hardwired a connector from the battery, that comes out behind the grill

I just plug them into a float charger with the male side of the connector for 1/2 a day once a month

no fuss no muss

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10/01/2011 7:10 PM

Maybe this is what is killing us all ! Is a 2003 Merc really all that old ?

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10/02/2011 10:59 AM

I LOVE my Merc. It is un-reliable & too expensive for ME to fix/maintain. It has a REPUTATION for being good, that doesn't match my experience. It fries its O2 sensors every year, and that is a $440. bill minimum, for those parts alone. I think they discontinued that engine until they had re-gone over the electronics. It's now back in a newer model in 2012 after a 9yr hiatus. Didn't check the alternator, but if that were bad, it'd have shown up in the 500miles. I'd drive 30 miles at a time, enough to charge the battery. Most people don't complain about theirs because they didn't retire with one,--they're still working, and can carry the weight. Plus those that own one, have several cars, so if one developes a "bug" they drop it off at the dealer. and drive car 2 or 3. That car should have been brought-over with its Euro-available turbo-diesil, but the US BUREAU behind auto-safety insists on crash-testing several examples of each engine-transmission to be imported, so the costs are too high to certify more than 3 or 4 engines, compared to the 10-15 available in Europe.

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10/02/2011 4:30 PM

Not testing the alternator may be the basic problem.

Most good shops offer such a service.

If you have a multimeter, I can give you a test using voltage measurements that will probably be good enough for your needs.

Just ask me. But only when the hood is open.......

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10/01/2011 9:23 AM

Considering the complaints, it seems the battery is not the only thing left without a charge!

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10/01/2011 10:25 AM

A message to the forum:

We're here to help not to be protagonists.

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10/01/2011 11:12 AM

In this case I have to agree with you.

The OP has problems that far outweigh a simple automotive dilemma.

I wish I could help.

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10/02/2011 4:36 AM

But protagonists ARE, sometimes, Helpers, and engineers know problem-solving may not be easy. What would happen...if EVERYBODY BOYCOTTED...the Fractional banks that Torture the First-thru-third worlds...simply because those banks CAN.--Thanks for your help, --especially from down-under, and may each of you reach-out and BE a Protagonist! In 1944, measures were promulgated against the Catholic Church in Nazi Germany. In Munich, Germans gathered by the thousands in the squares and stood, saying nothing, but the Nazis backed-away from further repressing the Christians. Not a word was said, but a message of Justice was sent, and received, even by relative mad-men(Nazis). The Fractional banks don't HAVE to be our masters. WE allow them to be, for today, to our shame. The bankers are going to continue to RULE our politicians, subverting our governments for their own devices, if we allow it... If we're not Protagonists...for Humanity. Am I a communist? No way, but for right now, the Fractional banks have too much corrupting power, with too little opposition. Kaddafi (--a monster!), but WHY do the Tauregs support him? I think the Tauregs support his REAL money, not so much him. His was one of 3 nations on Earth that used real, gold-backed money(--which opposes "fiat-money"). so of course, the First World "took-him-out", hiding it under a Religious banner of the Islamic Brotherhood. The Assads of Syria are nearly as bad as Kaddafi, but they don't oppose fiat-money, so they are only criticized. While the system is bad, I don't want it to crash-and-burn our economy, then have the surviving Fractionals claim we STILL OWE them EVERYTHING,--simply added... to a national/regional indebtedness! The reason WHY this is IMPORTANT, is because in times of prosperity, Engineers seem to do well, do good things, help people...in times of Depression, not so much...

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10/03/2011 4:35 AM

Richie?? Is that you?

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10/01/2011 12:11 PM

Agree with aussie bob, lyn, and tobugrynbak and kendall but I will just add the tiniest bit of info that there are fairly inexpensive solar chargers that will trickle charge through the cigarette lighter if you don't use the car very often. I suppose, bearing in mind others' observations re cognition of question-poser, I will clarify that the solar charger has to be in the sun in order to work.

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10/01/2011 12:19 PM

It's a good idea if the cigar lighter socket is permanently connected to the battery, many are not, but a simple re-wire would fix that.....

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10/01/2011 12:53 PM

I have a Toyota Corolla 95 that the hood doesn't open. I pull the cable with a plier every time I need an oil change. Enjoy

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10/01/2011 2:40 PM

I get very nervous about trying to charge a battery through the cigarette lighter. A friend of mine tried this and his power source found the short which caused the battery drain in the first place. The wire melted and also melted many of the other wires in the dash. Fourth of July came early that year... He ended up having to replace the entire dashboard. Parts of it had melted too.

If you insist on using this method, make damn sure your charger is current limited. DO NOT try and jump start from another vehicle using this route. This may have been what my friend did.

BE SAFE! I am sure that dashboards for a used Mercedes are harder to find and more expensive than the dashboard on a Chevy truck.

Bill

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10/08/2011 9:08 AM

Thanks:

In addition many solar panels will DRAW current when not in the sun. Boat owners using solar typically install a diode to prevent this. In addition, even a 5 watt panel will overcharge a battery over a period of time.

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10/02/2011 4:47 AM

After reading #26 and #27, I think you should park the car outside the bank and blow the living sh!t out of it.

Take some hostages, while you're at it, and go out in a blaze of glory.

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10/02/2011 9:46 AM

OK,

Just joking. That was tequila talk. Take a deep breath and face each day as it comes to you. Good luck.

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10/02/2011 11:07 AM

Thanks, but you can NEVER do what you think they WANT! It's too easy to write-off a critic of Fractional banks, IF...they hurt somebody/self. If a Fractionalist was strolling nearby when I pulled such a stunt, he'd apply foam to my mouth for good measure!

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10/08/2011 9:19 AM

Without a doubt this is the best answer so far. I suggest he join one of the Wall Street protests and offer his services. I think there is a cosmic reason as to why the battery is dead, he shouldn't be driving or be permitted near any source of energy.

If anyone needs justification for medical marijuana, AP#1 is it.

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10/02/2011 5:40 AM

12v socket charging. Does anyone know if on the C230K the circuit is live with the ignition off? Or if there is a key position where only the 12v socket & minor stuff is live?

I'm thinking that if the ignition key has to be in "ignition circuits on" position for the 12v socket to be live then there's a whole host of other circuits that will be 'on' including things like the aircon and or course the ignition itself. Can probably turn /some/ of them off manually but there'll still be a significant current drain.

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10/02/2011 5:49 AM

I have some work I should be doing this morning. You can probably tell. So I looked for solutions to the hood/bonnet problem and foudn several interesting angles that may / may not be appropriate to your model. Take a look at http://www.benzworld.org/ where there's a number of threads on the issue.

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10/04/2011 5:28 PM

You're lucky it's only the hood you have problems accessing.

On some vehicles, in order to access the battery, you have to remove the front fender!

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10/04/2011 6:44 PM

Harrah! pulled down thingie, replaced cable. Hood is open,battery's charging, THANKS!...for all the Great comments and Good wishes! --Fierce Tiger, I would not like to remove a fender like you have to do with a few cars. Luckily, did not have to do that then.

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