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Liquid Ring Pump Vacuum Loss

10/13/2011 7:08 AM

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I have a liqud ring pump installed but the vacuum keeps dropping as the sealing or recirculating water temperature increases (I believe my exhanger may be blocked or not sufficient heat transfer). I have looked around and I get some answers (see below) but none explain why, the only thing I can think of is the mass/density change of water at higher temperature, effecting the kinetic energy thus reducing vacuum. Can any one explain to me why:

"Your sealing water may be too hot. Keep in mind that the stated capacities of water sealed liquid ring vacuum pumps are dependent upon proper water temperature, usually around 60 degrees F. If your water temperature rises significantly above that, your pump's performance is likely to decrease, especially at deeper vacuum levels. If your system is equipped with a liquid to liquid heat exchanger, such as a plate and frame or shell and tube type, check it to make sure it is not clogged, preventing water flow through it. Depending on the type of heat exchanger you have, it could be cleaned or it may have to be replaced."

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Re: liquid ring pump vacuum loss

10/13/2011 7:33 AM

Increase in temperature of the water causes it to expand. This reduces displacement as the expanding fluid takes up more room in the vanes which would if cooled could be utilized. Your system can not handle this loss of CFM therefore the loss in vacuum.

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Re: Liquid Ring Pump Vacuum Loss

10/13/2011 1:27 PM

The warmer the water the more vapor is generated thus compensating the vacuum since part of volume is filled with water vapor !

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Re: Liquid Ring Pump Vacuum Loss

10/13/2011 10:53 PM

Water has a partial pressure that varies from a few MM at zero C to 760 MM at 100C.

At 100 C the pump totally fails. At temperatures rise you get a progressive failure to total. This is what nick name says in other words.

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Re: Liquid Ring Pump Vacuum Loss

10/14/2011 1:29 AM

By looking at your question it seems that first culprit is rise in temperature of the sealing liquid. But please understand that not only seal liquid, but there are other factor's which may lead to reduction in pump capacity.

First of all; note those liquid ring vacuum pumps are versatile machines in "wet load" (condensable gases) application.

Also note that sealing liquid is absorbing the heat of compression, friction & condensation.

The capacity of the pump is greatly influenced by vapour pressure of the sealing liquid, and the vapour pressure will vary with the change of sealing liquid temperature. When sealing liquid temperature rises, vapour pressure also rises, thereby reducing pumping volume. Please refer following chart.

Lets take the example of the pump running at seal liquid temperature of 15°C at 40 Torr. If there is raise of seal fluid temperature of 5°C the capacity of the pump drops down to 20%.

So increase in seal water temperature is not good for the pump capacity.

Now you are saying that your pump capacity is dropping with increase in seal water temperature. That means something is going wrong in the system & not only in the pump.

There could be some reasons (as listed below) for the same;

Ø Inadequate seal water flow (due to low flow the heat absorption capacity is not enough & in every cycle it is getting heated & may be is vaporising.

Ø Excessive sealing liquid leakage from the packing / seal. (loss of water will increase the temperature)

Ø Recirculation heat exchanger choke.

Ø Recirculation pump performance is in adequate.

Ø System leaks - Sources of leaks can include open drain valves, blown gaskets, loose flanges, poorly packed valves, inadequate barometric drop legs on separator, broken pipes etc. Higher leakage will result in lower vacuum.

Ø Variation in pump rpm - If rpm is low, pump will run at a lower capacity. Check motor and V-belt.

You have to check following;

Ø Pump performance like pressure, temperature, pump seal tightness, and in case of packing replace it with seal.

Ø Check the pump operating point; if the operating point has shifted to the left may be you have to check for the HE choke.

Ø Check for the seal water adequate supply.

Ø Low seal water flow could be due to a plugged strainer or partially closed valve in the recirculation line.

Ø Check in the system whether hot condensable gases along with the non condensable gases are introduced in the system.

I hope after complete check of the system as above there should not be any problem

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Re: Liquid Ring Pump Vacuum Loss

10/14/2011 5:32 AM

Adding to Nick_name:

At low pressures, water will evaporate at lower temperatures:

At atmospheric pressures, Evaporation is near 100°C, Whilst at lower pressures, it will be much less ... look at Molier's Diagram. Therefore, as the water temperature increases, it might reach the evaporation temperature for the particular vaccuum pressure and the seal will be lost, reducing to vaccuum to reach the next point whereby the evap.temp will be higher than the existing temp. and so re-stabilise at a less vaccuum point.

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10/14/2011 9:33 AM

Depending on what you are using the pump for, have you considered switching to oil as your sealing fluid? I use four 40hp liquid ring pumps, using oil as the sealing fluid, and they handle the heat well. They can be a little messy at times, but I would never go back to water. BTW, they're Dekker pumps, and Dekker has the worst customer service I've experienced. I would never recommend anyone buying their pumps.

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Re: Liquid Ring Pump Vacuum Loss

10/14/2011 10:04 AM

The pumps i have are sihi pumps they are pretty good. i willlookinto this oil as sealing liquid but the problem is its a recirculating process thusall non condensablesand oilwill go ito the same separator pot will this not ruin the quality of theoil, i do not want to be changing it every few months.

the water now usually gets fouldedwith free fatty acids and by the looks of it bleach earth.

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