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Differential Pressure Switch Wiring

10/16/2011 5:05 AM

Dear All,

I'm trying very hard to figure out how to wire my differential pressure switch.

The package consists of 2 SPDT switches. One for high pressure and one for lower pressure.

Here's how it's supposed to work. The switch will turn on the compressor when the pressure drops to low pressure setting until it reaches high pressure setting again.

Example:

High Pressure Setting: 1000 psi

Low Pressure Setting: 500 psi

Current state is 1000 psi. After one hour, the pressure drops slowly to 500 psi and the switch triggers to on the compressor. The compressor charges until 1000 psi and stops charging when reaching 1000 psi. The cycle goes on and on.

Below is the catalogue page. Pls see model H122 for the internal wiring of the pressure switch.

Someone please help me. Thanks.

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Re: Differential pressure switch wiring

10/16/2011 6:32 AM

are you sure it's not a high pressussure air leak that's slowly draining the tank from 1000psi back down to the 500psi cut in setting. that would explain why the tank's cycling. is the gauge showing 500psi at the cut-in setting and 1000psi at the cut-out setting . i'm not familar with a double switch set-up, but i would think it would work on the same principal as a single switch system. test for leaks using liquid soap at all connections and valves. inspect air distribrution lines for corrosion. do you have any equipment connected to the compressor that might me leaking off air at idle?

the diagrams you provided are unreadable, but i think it's wired correctly . the compressor seems to cycling corectly.

good luck.

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Re: Differential pressure switch wiring

10/16/2011 12:01 PM

Hi,

Sorry, maybe I'm not clear in my question. The pressure drop is normal. There are bound to be small leaks. And also if the equipment is operated, the pressure will drop and hence the lower pressure switch will do it's job to increase the pressure up.

I'm asking how do I connect the external wiring so that it works. The diagram in the first post was too small. I've added a clearer diagram. Also there's a link below for the installation manual and specs.

Anyone please help me out?

http://www.ueonline.com/techinfo/imp120.pdf

http://www.valinonline.com/images/support_docs/UE_120-b.pdf

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Re: Differential Pressure Switch Wiring

10/16/2011 11:39 AM

Diferential pressure switch controls pressure difference between 2 points. It seems you needed a simple pressure switch - not the differential. The pressure switch will either already have the built-in differential, or have a differential adjustable mechanism (a scale with a screw).

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10/16/2011 12:06 PM

Hi,

Im not really sure what is it called. But seems that it is a pressure switch. There is a screw to adjust the pressure for high pressure and low pressure.

Any idea how to connect the external wires? Pls see the internal diagram that i re-posted that is more clear.

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10/16/2011 12:20 PM

Good point! I missed that this is a differential pressure sensor and not a simple pressure switch. If one leaves one port open to atmosphere then certainly one can make an expensive differential switch work as a simple pressure switch.

Wiring these contacts all comes down to what the OP wishes to do with these signals.

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Re: Differential Pressure Switch Wiring

10/16/2011 12:00 PM

First, I doubt that the contacts of these switches will be capable of handling directly the current draw of your compressor motor. This will mean that you will need an additional relay or contactor to do what you desire. There is an additional reason to have a relay that will become obvious soon. Make sure that this relay has a Normally Open (NO) set of contacts that are not used to power the motor itself. To standardize the pressure switch contact names, the NO contacts are open when at atmosphere and the NC contacts are closed at atmosphere. Wire the low pressure NC and relay NO contacts in parallel with each other. Wire this combination in series with the high pressure NC contacts, an ON/OFF toggle switch, the relay coil and a suitable power supply to turn on the relay coil. Wire the remaining contacts of the relay so that the compressor is running when the relay is ON.

You will notice now that the current flowing through your pressure switch contacts will be just the current to engage the added relay coil. You should now walk though this logic to see that your compressor will be ON when the pressure is below both switch pressures, OFF when above both switch pressures and ON only when charging up to the high pressure.

Now I haven't included any current protection devices (fuse or circuit breaker) but this should be added where needed. The high pressure level switch should be at a pressure level less than the safety release valve pressure which should also be less than the vessel maximum safe pressure.

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10/16/2011 12:11 PM

I forgot to mention that you can use additional contacts of the relay to either remotely or locally display if the compressor should be ON or OFF. Depending on your system this maybe a useful or unnecessary addition.

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10/16/2011 2:40 PM

I'm not sure that you have the right pressure switch. Compressor control is conventionally done with a gauge pressure (single pressure port), "wide adjustable deadband" pressure switch. A gauge pressure switch has only one pressure port. The wide adjustable deadband allows a single electrical switch to operate for pump-up control.

You describe your switch as a "differential pressure switch". A differential pressure switch has two pressure ports, a high side and a low side:


Which one do you have? The two port differential H122K is not appropriate for this kind of service.


The H122 switches do not have sufficient deadband to perform pump-up action with a single switch.

UE's adjustable deadband option is the 1519 option. Does your switch have the 1519 option?

Assuming you have a single port, gauge pressure switch, without the adjustable deadband you'll need a two pole control relay to accomplish what is called pump-up control action.

You need to turn the compressor on at a low pressure, keep the compressor running until the high pressure cut-off point is reached, then turn the compressor off and keep the compressor off until the low pressure cut-in point is reached, which will re-start the cycle. That action is called "pump up".

The classic wiring schematic for pump up control with 2 separate pressure switches, where one pressure switch is set for a cut-in and the other set for cut-out, is shown below (the diagram is for liquid level, but the concept is identical to pressure):

Note that the contacts are normally closed below the trip pressure setpoint. You need an additional double pole relay (K in the schematic) with contacts capable of handling the compressor motor current or the compressor starter's current.

At zero pressure, the compressor is turned on because LS2 is below its cut-out setpoint (contacts closed) and LS1's contacts are closed because it is below its cut-in setpoint. The latching contact K closes as soon as the control relay energizes. As the pressure rises above LS1's setpoint, LS1's contacts open, but the compressor keeps running because LS2 is still closed and the latching contact K completes the relay's control circuit.

When pressure rises above the LS2's setpoint, LS2 opens and the pump control relay turns off. The latching contact K opens. The compressor turns off. All pressure switches have some deadband, and as soon as the pressure drops below the deadband reset point, LS2 closes again (990?, 980 psi?). But the compressor won't turn on until the pressure drops below LS1's setpoint, at which time LS1's contacts close, the compressor starts and the cycle begins again.

Be sure that the LS1 switch in the diagram is the front low switch in the H122:

You wire to the common (C) and Normally Closed (NC) terminals on each switch.

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Re: Differential Pressure Switch Wiring

10/17/2011 1:25 AM

It seems to me that the wiring should be as follows: A- Wiring on the Low Side: Power line to the N.C. Connector. Ground or Common Line to the Connector marked "Common". B- Wiring on the High Side: Power to the N.O. Connector. Frond or Common line to the Connector marked " Common". Reason: At the Beggining the compressor Pressure is discharged (Atmospheric). Therefore when power is turned On, the low side N.C. Will power it, while on the high side power is standby on the N.O. Connector. When the compressor Pressure gets to the upper setting (1,000 PSI), the N.O. Switch on the high side closes, and it turns the Low Side N.C. Switch to Open, shutting off the compressor at the (1,000 PSI). Now when the pressure comes down to the Low limit, the High Side Switch which is closed kicks off, thus letting the Low Side Switch to close again, causing the compressor to start up again up until it reaches the High Pressure setting. The cycle repeats itself on and on as described above. Hope it helps clarify your doubts and question, Rafael L. Lama [email removed] http://casadominicanadepuertorrico.ning.com

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Re: Differential Pressure Switch Wiring

10/17/2011 1:56 AM

You either need a single switch with hysteresis setting (like for a well pump) and i don't know if they are available in this pressure range. Or, you need a relay with 2 sets of contacts. the badic problem is that there are 2 different states possible between 500 & 1000 psi. Cant solve that w/ regular switches. Hugh

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Re: Differential Pressure Switch Wiring

10/17/2011 9:34 AM

In response to Rafael L Lama's proposal to wire dual switches with no control relay.

1) The proposal, as stated, produces a short circuit across the line:

2) Perhaps the intention was to wire the common terminal(s) to the LOAD, the compressor motor, shown as M in the diagram.

If so, then yes, the compressor motor will turn on at any pressure below the cut-in point (as shown above), but will turn off at any pressure above the cut-in point, as shown below.


If there was a clever way to do pump-up or pump-down with only dual switches, the economy would not support the host of "pumping relays" or wiring diagrams using a control relay with a latching contact, like I posted. But no one's come up with a scheme in the past century to do so.

Any other takers?

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10/17/2011 9:42 AM

Carl E is correct, you can ignore some of the other posts because they didn't adequately read your description. Your hysteresis, the difference between cut-in and cut-out, is too great for most simple compressor switches. If you have an H122, (which is NOT differential by the way) that can work but needs the relay or a contactor with aux. contacts that will do the same function as he described. He is also right in that this is NOT a differential pressure switch application. A DPS is used to control something based on the difference between TWO DIFFERENT pressure environments. An example is monitoring a filter. You look at the pressure on one side and the pressure on the other side of the filter and as the filter clogs, there becomes a greater and greater difference between them and at some point the difference triggers the switch so you can take action of some sort. That is not your application. I'm hoping that you have a pressure regulator down stream of your tank by the way, because otherwise your devices that obviously must have something as low as 100PSI minimum operation will be subjected to the 500PSI maximum and that would be unusual.

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Re: Differential Pressure Switch Wiring

10/17/2011 12:29 PM

United Electric's One Series switch has keypad adjustable hysteresis/deadband over the entire range of the switch. It also comes in an EXP housing if needed.

The electrical switch is not electromechanical, it is solid state, so close attention has to be paid to what the load is to match up a switch. Low power 2 wire units draw operating current from the load.

http://www.ueonline.com/products/fp_1series.htm

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Re: Differential Pressure Switch Wiring

12/07/2011 6:05 PM

Thank you all for the valuable comments. I have managed to wire the pressure switch and make it work. I used the contactor coil as a relay and auxiliary contact as switch. The auxiliary contact is series to the coil and overload relay (contactor control circuit) and paralleled to the low pressure switch. Really appreciate all the comments. Thanks again.

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12/07/2011 8:17 PM

Glad we could help and thank you for the update.

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