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Trouble On Variable Frequency Driver

12/25/2011 5:46 AM

Dear sir,

We have a siemen sinamics 120 VFD Motor speed controller.

We have an alarm in the VFD panel "A07400(N) DRIVE:DC link maximum controller active".

We then reset this alarm then restart the motor.T

The motor will run for 20 minutes then trip again with alarm fault "F30002 VDC overvoltage".

Can anyone help me to solve this problem , as I cant contact vendor due to christmas?

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Re: Trouble On Variable Frequency Driver

12/25/2011 8:45 AM

What is the drive capacity and motors HP? and what load is connected to the motor?

this is seems to be DC bus voltage is getting higher because of may be load

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Re: Trouble On Variable Frequency Driver

12/25/2011 9:24 AM

Additional information:

Motor rating 250kW

V:690Volt f:50 HZ FLA:244A

2990RPM

and load is for fan/blower

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Re: Trouble On Variable Frequency Driver

12/25/2011 11:33 AM

Please check if this overvoltage problem is happening only after running the load, you may try with increasing the starting time as you have informed the application is FAN/Blower, I expect the problem is with the inertia of load.

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Re: Trouble On Variable Frequency Driver

12/25/2011 12:25 PM

Usually this is caused by the load actually "pulling" the motor, which over drives it and turns it into a generator, then the energy gets to the DC bus and has nowhere to go. This will happen on some blower applications where you have decel enabled and a long column of air moving. Your control system is calling for a slower speed from the blower, the drive responds immediately, but the air column continues to keep moving at the higher speed and causes a motor speed that is higher than the VFD commanded speed. If you want to test this theory, disable the Decel, change it to "coast to stop". If the problem goes away, that's what it was. What you decide to do from there will likely involve discussions with the air handling people too.

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Re: Trouble On Variable Frequency Driver

12/25/2011 1:50 PM

what JRaef said is absolutely right.in ur case motor acting as generator due to load.if possible try to run motor only,i mean disconnect load from motor and check for improvement

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Re: Trouble On Variable Frequency Driver

12/25/2011 11:53 PM

Does this motor run at a fixed rpm, and run continously during the 20 minute period. I agree with jraef, but if you are varing rpm you may need to merely change ramp time (lengthen). Had similar issue with high inertia loads. Good luck

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Re: Trouble On Variable Frequency Driver

12/26/2011 7:26 AM

If this is a sudden problem you may want to also be sure that you are loosing the run command to the drive intermittently for short periods of time. Most fan and pump drives do not provide significant regen, so change from decel stop to coast to stop.

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Re: Trouble On Variable Frequency Driver

12/27/2011 6:24 AM

You have already received some good information but I'll add info from the manual.

Shawn

A07400 (N) Drive: DC link voltage maximum controller active

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NONE

Acknowledge:

NONE

Cause:

The DC link voltage controller has been activated because the upper switch-in threshold has been exceeded (r1242,

r1282).

The ramp-down times are automatically increased in order to maintain the DC link voltage (r0070) within the permissible

limits. There is a system deviation between the setpoint and actual speeds.

When the DC link voltage controller is switched out (disabled), this is the reason that the ramp-function generator

output is set to the speed actual value.

See also: p1240 (Vdc controller or Vdc monitoring configuration (vector control)), p1280 (Vdc controller or Vdc monitoring

configuration (V/f))

Remedy:

If the controller is not to intervene:

- increase the ramp-down times.

- shut down the Vdc_max controller (p1280 = 0).

If the ramp-down times are not to be changed:

- use a chopper or regenerative feedback unit.

F30002 Power unit: DC link voltage, overvoltage

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OFF2

Acknowledge:

IMMEDIATELY

Cause:

The power unit has detected an overvoltage condition in the DC link.

- motor regenerates too much energy.

- line supply voltage too high.

- line phase interrupted.

- DC-link voltage control switched off.

- dynamic response of DC-link voltage controller excessive or insufficient.

Fault value (r0949, interpret decimal):

DC link voltage [1 bit = 100 mV].

Remedy:

-increase the ramp-down time (p1121).

- set the rounding times (p1130, p1136). This is particularly recommended in V/f operation to relieve the DC link voltage

controller with rapid ramp-down times of the ramp-function generator.

- Activate the DC link voltage controller (p1240, p1280).

- adapt the dynamic response of the DC-link voltage controller (p1243, p1247, p1283, p1287).

- Check the line connection voltage (p0210).

- check and correct the phase assignment at the power unit.

- check the line supply phases.

See also: p0210 (Drive unit line supply voltage), p1240 (Vdc controller or Vdc monitoring configuration (vector control))

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Re: Trouble On Variable Frequency Driver

12/27/2011 9:14 PM

GA Shawn.

Did you find the manual on the internet?

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12/28/2011 5:55 AM

I've used S120 on past projects so had downloaded the manuals. I don't remember if they were available to the public or if you had to sign into Siemens web page to get them. Like past Siemens drives, an excellent drive but many parameters.

Shawn

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