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Finding Water

05/02/2007 11:53 AM

How can I find water resources in the Earth?

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05/02/2007 2:22 PM

dig.

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05/02/2007 2:37 PM

Where would you dig? Are there signs to look for above the ground that might provide hints? How deep should you dig to hit water? Is there a certain type of geology that lends itself to retaining water more than others?

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05/02/2007 2:40 PM

I guess I would dig down.

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05/02/2007 2:54 PM

I'm sorry I thought you were kidding, I didn't realize you work for NASA.

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05/02/2007 2:58 PM

..and, I should have added, it'll take me 10 years and $50billion.


Now, I can tell you exactly where the water is on Mars...

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05/02/2007 3:03 PM

$50Billion? That's 90's talk. I think you meant $500 billion. Deficit Spending Forever!

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05/04/2007 6:49 AM

All that money and they could just make water. That would be taking the %^**

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Re: Finding Water

05/02/2007 4:09 PM

GOOGLE Well Witching

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05/02/2007 5:58 PM

What else is lost?

In arid parts of the world a lot of well witchers surface. Over the years i met a lot of them.

The strangest one was a woman (quite a bulky one) who's pantie fell down whenever there was water. (underground water in the earth).

Another man threw his hat like a Frisbee.

Then there is a man with a negative blood type who claims that he can sense the water. his success rate is believed to be above 80%.

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05/02/2007 7:42 PM

We Brits call in the dowsers these folk hold metal or wooden rods and when they move to cross over, that is they are held one in each hand (loosely) (they are (L) shaped the free part being about 18" long) parallel and then move of their own accord so as they cross over each other left to right, right to left. This indicates water at that point. Another method involves a twig section like a (wish bone) held by the two end and the pointy section faces forward it is held so as to be horizontal until over water when it sharply points down. It seems to depend on the person who dowses as to how good it is but I have seen it work on several occasions. Try looking it up on wiky. or google.

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05/02/2007 7:51 PM

The wishbone shaped device you refer to is also known as a "devining rod". I suspect that the term devining was derived from Dowsers praying for devine intervention to prevent the application of tar and feathers and sever beating if water was not found.

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05/02/2007 8:16 PM

Thanks I had a mental blockage.

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05/02/2007 10:31 PM

There are some important issues to be considered: 1. where do you live? in a rain forest or in the Sahara; 2. what do you want the water for? (this may not sound very clever, but polluted water can be used for engine cooling ... but not for drinking). 3. how much water do you need? (just for watering your yard, or for industrial use)

Finding the appropriate water supply is directly proportional to your budget. If no cash available:

a. Try the scientific way: search for "indirect" signs of water like looking for certain species of trees that only grow where plenty of water is available, like willows. You probably will have to consult a botanist for him to tell you what trees are to be sought in your area.

b. Try the para-cientific approach, like calling a dowser.

c. Rely on your luck and start digging downwards, as bhankiii suggested

d. Check the weather chanell, dig a large hole, cover it with nylon..and wait until it rains

If you've got plenty of cash; call a geologist for him to make a profile of the soil by means of sonography. Sometimes they also use a drill, explosives and sensors to make this profile.

Consider that the latter may be a little annoying to your neighbours!

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05/02/2007 11:38 PM

Try your neighbor's swimming pool.....

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05/03/2007 12:00 AM

Earth water is regional specific. Contact a well digging company for the area and they can tell you average well depth for that area. If there are no well digging companies in the area chances are there is no water to be had. Sorta makes sense don't it?

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Re: Finding Water

05/03/2007 12:55 AM

Absolutely amazing, someone asks a serious question and people reply suggesting "dowsing". Every time it's tested, using a double blind protocol, it fares no better than chance. That means it doesn't work, despite all the marvellous anecdotes you've heard.

Of course, to be fair, these tests could have been rigged by the same world wide secret cabal that hids all the other secret knowledge, stuff like free energy, magic cancer cures, flying saucers, telepathy and the results of next weeks lottery.

The real world is magic enough, we dont need to believe stuff that isn't true. Jeff

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Re: Finding Water

05/03/2007 2:15 AM

Not knowing the geology of your area this will be hard.

Look for deep rooted trees or better yet shallow rooted systems, the water is closer to the surface.

Check natural geological formations, bed rock, stream and river beds.

Make use of the Dew effect collection on tarps or fine mesh netting held up in the air.

Check with oil well drilling companies that have worked the area, they can tell you depth of the water table, and likely areas to search.

Check with the local geology department for your state.

Look around at other sources of water in your region, see where it comes from: springs, rivers, ice melt.

Follow the birds and other wild life in the area.

Crush vegetation cover with an inverted tarp with rock or weight in the center to make a cone shape, place a container at the lowest point and wait.

Filter salt water.

Pray for rain it is as affective as dowsing if not more so.

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05/03/2007 2:39 AM

As the old saying goes "Nothing is as good as prayer". Jeff

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05/03/2007 4:55 AM

In general, there is water under the earth nearly everywhere. Sometimes referred to as "moisture", where very little water in liquid form exists, and sometimes called the water table- where abundant amounts literally pool. With time, and appropriate tools, it is likely that even the smallest amount of moisture could be gathered in even the most arid geography. So the question is- How much water do you need?

My 80 foot well now produces only 1 gallon a minute for about 30 minutes, then must recover for about 12 hours, ever since the wine industry installed and fills a reservoir up the valley. Now I get to purchase my water back from them in a less sobering form.

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05/03/2007 7:24 AM

You can rent or buy a geoscanner or a GEM 2 scanner. This is an electronic equipment commonly used by treasure hunters searching for gold or metal deposits. But it can also find water. It will show how deep and how big the water deposit is under your property.

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Re: Finding Water

05/03/2007 11:23 PM

Try the wooden wishbone shaped diving rod first. Many a country folk in my area can do it. Try it yourself also, I was told that its just something that people can do, some can do it and some can't but it will really pull down when you come across it. I work with a guy that was searching for a broken water line that way. Nobody knew where it was because it was installed before we worked here and the blueprint was gone. another guy brought one of those electric "find it" tools with him to double-check when the witching stick pulled down and sure enough it was there. Then he followed the water line all the way back to the plant.

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05/04/2007 9:38 AM

It needs to be willow. You can also make a diviner with two L-shaped metal rods. Hold the small part of the L in a round dowel in each hand - when you cross where the water is, the two long parts of the L will move toward each other.

That's how I found where to build my pyramid.

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05/04/2007 5:55 PM

Knowing the geology in the area is very helpful.

Example

I used to live in an area where faults, Dyke's and sills are visible above ground. all you had to do is to calculate the distance using the slope of the visible rock.

Where i live at this stage dolomite water is available everywhere.

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05/05/2007 12:30 AM

Are you in India , and is this you ?

The more location information you can give , the more useful the replies may be.

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04/11/2008 11:26 PM

SIR

LOCATION...INDIA. TAMILNADU...MADURAI URBAN..

IT IS NEEDED FOR AGRICULTURAL PURPOSE .

TO FIND A WATER LOCATION WHATS THE EXACT METOD

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05/09/2007 3:30 PM

Use a seismic source to send sound waves into the ground with one of two sources, a hammer and plate or a buffalo source. This sound wave travels through rock formations and moves the rock slightly (usually less than one millimeter). When this movement occurs in a water bearing rock formation (where there is sufficient water to provide a measurable yield to a well) then the water is displaced (moved). This movement causes a small but measurable electrical signal. That electrical signal returns to the surface and is recorded by our equipment. We then take that data back to our office and after a few hours of processing we are able to determine depth, yield, and quality (as it relates to salinity). If there is no water then there will be no signal indicating an aquifer. If salinity is too high, (above 1000 parts per million) then there will be no significant signal returned.

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