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Electrical Circuit Contact Points & 'Gounding' Switch

02/01/2012 11:38 PM

I'm an architect from Melbourne trying to find an electrical solution where the specialist have not, so apologies for this novice enquiry.

1. I am designing a door for a concert hall stage that needs to open silently. A magnetic lock at the head allows this function. We want the door release to be in the door handle using a switch back to a adjacent controller. When the door is closed the circuit is complete and activates the lock. I need a circuit connection component at the head of the door to complete the circuit when in contact. Maybe two roll over contact points +&-. Does anyone know a product to achieve this objective?

2. The handle of the above door could use micro switches to break the circuit and release the lock or even better, could be a current 'grounding' plate that releases the lock when touched. What is the right name for a this and is there an available product or supplier of this technology?

Ideally in Australia, yet USA is good too. Cheers, Will

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02/02/2012 12:01 AM

So you want the door to only open one way (exiting stage) and auto lock when closed, is that correct?

How about something like this?

http://www.doorking.com/pages/dks-acc-maglock.php

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02/02/2012 7:52 AM

You could use controller and door lock from Post #1, for your handle you could also use IR proximity sensor.

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02/02/2012 7:55 AM

A push type switch they use in many hospitals secure wards will do to open. They mount on the wall beside door. You may find that the door latch device may all ready have the switch which secures the door in it for item 1.

These device are pretty silent operating. They will also meet fire codes. Not sure of your application. We don't want anyone lock behind a door if the power goes down.

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Re: Electrical Circuit Contact Points & 'Gounding' switch

02/02/2012 8:50 AM

Thanks for the responses guys. I've had a look at DoorKing and their mag locks are similar to what we have in mind (Padde.com.au). However im not quite there yet. This is a little more abstract description of what im after:

1. Two independent objects that when come in contact form a closed circuit. Such as door leaf and its frame. Is this a proximity switch or sensor?

2. A device that activates on touch. I think this is a capacitance or resistance touch switch?

Anyone have experience with either of the above?

Thanks also to Wikipedia!

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02/02/2012 9:56 AM

I am only familiar with components available in the states. These manufacturers have a global presence, so you probably can get them.

#1: You will probably need to install a door position switch. This is far and away the most common method of de-energizing the magnet when the door is open. This scheme assures that a stray piece of metal will not be attracted to the magnet when the door is open, rendering the bond ineffective. These are available in many styles; this is a common type, with a magnet and a reed switch:

Securitron DPS

#2: Securitron TSH (Touch Sense Handles)

Or, Securitron SP-1 (Touch Sense Plate)

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02/04/2012 7:35 PM

Thanks Doorman, that's very helpful. I will try to adapt the TSH with a coverplate for the stage and a door pull for the wings. The DPS could work too. Yet do you know of a similar product that runs a current through it? I've been advised the TSH handles need to release the mag lock via current through the DPS contact as a circuit. I would be really happy to be corrected on this!

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02/06/2012 9:17 AM

"I've been advised the TSH handles need to release the mag lock via current through the DPS contact as a circuit."

No, the circuit doesn't need to run thru a DPS. It is very common to include a door position sensor in the scheme of a magnet lock; this for a number of security reasons. From your discussion here, this application is not really a security issue but a convenience issue. The door position switch is not a required part of the scheme here, as I understand it.

The controlled relay switches are rated at 2 amp 24VDC. While this is sufficient for most conventional door hardware magnets, it may be marginal or insufficient for your application.

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