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Voltage Law

03/17/2012 12:32 PM

how to find the voltage drop at a single node,when many resistors are connected together using kirchoff's voltage law

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Re: voltage law

03/17/2012 12:36 PM

There isn't any voltage drop at a single node. Kirchoff's law is used to evaluate the voltage drop between two nodes.

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03/17/2012 12:38 PM

Isolate the node.

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Re: voltage law

03/17/2012 2:45 PM

OK I admit I am lost, not quite sure of what node refers to in this context. A point of resistance or reactance? In which case it's a simple problem. Or a connection point in which case there is no voltage drop.

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03/17/2012 12:42 PM

in a complicated circuit if the voltage drop across two points have to be found,that is nothing but voltage at one point - voltage at another point,how will u find the voltage at that single point using kvl

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Re: voltage law

03/17/2012 12:42 PM

By doing the full mesh or nodal analysis.

You also have a significant misunderstanding in measuring a voltage. A voltage measurement is always across two nodes. The voltage at only one node is meaningless. A voltage drop then implies at least three nodes must be present to make a proper measurement.

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03/17/2012 1:24 PM

Fred Quote "The voltage at only one node is meaningless. A voltage drop then implies at least three nodes must be present to make a proper measurement."

No comprende? Why 3?

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Re: voltage law

03/17/2012 3:46 PM

If there are only two nodes (1,2) then there can only be one and only one voltage V1,2. There is no voltage drop. With three or more nodes (1,2,3) there can then be a voltage drop because now the impedance of the components make for more voltages and one can use KVL. V 1,2 + V 2,3 + V 3,1 = 0

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03/17/2012 3:26 PM

You'd probably use Ohm's Law, anyway.

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03/17/2012 9:22 PM

OK. I was using pt1 as one end of the load and pt2 as the other end, therefore 2 pts.

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03/18/2012 8:19 AM

try this!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirchhoff's_circuit_laws

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03/19/2012 3:13 PM

I was thinking of something like this.

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03/19/2012 4:38 PM

There's also a point three between the two light bulbs. If you consider the wiring and fuse resistance then I can quickly add up to almost a dozen points at the start and end of each wire. Depending on how connections are made there can possibly be even another few dozen points when one considers connector pins. I almost forgot about the effect of the source resistance in the battery. This creates a point that one cannot reach or touch but that can be calculated with simple testing.

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03/20/2012 12:21 PM

can u please suggest some book links to become strong in basics of electrical eng. sir

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03/20/2012 12:54 PM

The best book will be the textbook for the class you are taking. There are just to many ways that one can misunderstand what is written. That being said, I used "Electric Circuit Analysis" by David E. Johnson, Johnny R. Johnson, John L. Hilburn & Peter D. Scott.

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03/22/2012 7:30 AM

Thank u:-)

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