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Which Standard to Use for Hot Oil Heater- ASME 1 or API 560

04/17/2012 6:29 PM

Hello, I am a package engineer responsible for procuring a heating medium package (using hot oil). Unfortunately I am very confused about which standard I should be specifying for the heater. Some companies are offering packages built and stamped to ASME 1 while some are offering the package built to API 560. I know that ASME 1 is the power boiler standard used for the design/fabrication of water boilers so why are vendors building to ASME 1 over API 560 (this seems very common)? Does anyone know what the difference between an API 560 heater and an ASME 1 heater is?

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Re: Which Standard to Use for Hot Oil Heater- ASME 1 or API 560

04/17/2012 6:52 PM

"Heaters can be supplied in accordance with most design codes such as ASME, API, DIN, BS, AS and many others.

Process piping is normally built according to ASME B31.3.

Boilers are normally built according to ASME.

Tube thickness for process heaters are normally in accordance with API-RP530 for 100000 Hours."

http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=98993

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Re: Which Standard to Use for Hot Oil Heater- ASME 1 or API 560

04/17/2012 9:35 PM

What do the vendors say when you ask them, "so why are vendors building to ASME 1 over API 560 (this seems very common"?

You have asked them, haven't you? At least you know who they are. Don't you?

And, if not, why not?

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Re: Which Standard to Use for Hot Oil Heater- ASME 1 or API 560

04/18/2012 2:03 AM

ASME I "Rules for construction of power boilers"

PG-2 "Service Limitations"

PG-2.4 "The rules of this section are not intented to apply To Thermal fluid Heaters in wich a fluid other than water is heated by the application of heat resulting from the combustion of solid, liquid of gaseous fuel but in wich no vaporation of the fluid take place; however such thermal fluid heaters may be constructed and stamped in accordance with this section, provided all applicable requierements are met":

API 560 " Fire Heaters for general Refinery Service"

SCOPE: "This International Standard specifies requirements and give recommendations for the desing, materials, fabrication,inspection, testing, preparation for shipment and erection of fire heaters, air pre-heaters, fans and burners for general refinery service"

Then............ Yourself. Regards, WP

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Re: Which Standard to Use for Hot Oil Heater- ASME 1 or API 560

04/18/2012 1:08 PM

Thanks for the responses guys but I am still not getting what I am looking for. Unfortunately I am not in a capacity to be contacting these vendors in the current stage of procurement. Take for example the product brochure listed on the fulton website

http://www.fulton.com/products/productprofile.php?ptc=th&uid=17

They design their heaters to ASME 1 code whereas say an alternative vendor such as Gasco has suggested that they are going to design to ASME 560.

http://gasco.net.au/Gasco_Brochure_English.pdf

What is the major difference in the product to be supplied?

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04/18/2012 1:42 PM
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