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Steam Turbine Condenser Make Up

06/30/2012 2:31 AM

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there is a problem in a CCPP power plant during condenser make up.

when level of condenser falls below the permissible limit , a motorized valve so-called make up valve opens and simultaneously a make up pump is started and make up of the condenser begins.since the condenser is under vacuum (100 m Bar a), during make up of condenser this vacuum makes some serious problems such as make up pump overload , ... . so how we can prevent the condenser vacuum influences all devices exist in the make up system?

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Re: steam turbine condenser make up

06/30/2012 2:58 AM

Put a restriction in the discharge piping from the pump into the condenser, such as a "Q-max orifice."

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06/30/2012 7:43 AM

Correct! (as you already know...just an effort to convince the OP)

Is the valve controlled by computer or is it an air operated control? You should be able to get your technician to create setpoints for the valve to operate at.

If you provide absolute pressures, desired flow rates, pump and piping details I am sure some of us would have fun playing with the numbers to help.

<Tornado> I am not familiar with a Q-max, is it an ordinary remote operated valve or something for power plants I haven't seen yet?

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06/30/2012 10:12 AM

These are simply an orifice placed in the discharge piping to ensure that the pump runs enough to the left on its curve to avoid cavitation. Refrigerant pumps often feature this. It also prevents motor overloading, which usually isn't as much a concern. Q is just the term for flow.

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07/01/2012 12:32 PM

Sounds like it would be good in conjunction with a control valve. It is often important to regulate your rate of flow of the makeup water.

Not sure what else to think for the O.P. Perhaps we need to know more about the problem.

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Re: Steam Turbine Condenser Make Up

07/01/2012 1:16 AM

I think using an orifice can not solve the problem because i simulated it with closing the pump discharge valve but it was not successful. In addition , as i sad before , elektromotor overload is one of the several problems witch that vacuum makes.

the motorized valve here operate as on/off valve and is not a control valve.

really I'm looking for an experimental or innovative general solution to block this vacuum in the condenser during make up.

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Re: Steam Turbine Condenser Make Up

07/02/2012 11:04 AM

Try bypassing the pump when the condenser is operating (under vacuum). The pump should only be needed to provide make up water during shut down conditions (no vacuum).

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