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Worlds Strongest Materials

07/09/2012 10:33 AM

Hi everyone. I have been attempting to research the worlds best/strognest materials.
I look to discover the top few materials for each of these categories.
A) Which materials have the highest Tensile Strength?
B) Which materials have the highest Yield Strength?
C) Which have the best corrosion resistance
D) Which are the toughest.

I look to study mainly metals but am also interested in ceramics or composites.

So far I have found that Carbon Nanotubes have the best tensile strenght but I dont know what is second to them?

I have also discovered Iridium has the highest corrosion resistance.

I would appreciate any help here, if anyone has any knowledge please share or if they can point me in the right direction i would be grateful.
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07/09/2012 10:48 AM

Thanks Lyn
I understand most the mechanics behind strengths etc, I just look to discover which materials are the strongest known to man, I look to achieve a list basically for each categorie.
Tensile
1.carbon nanotube
2. etc

Corrosion resistant
1. Irridium
2.Gold
3.etc

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07/09/2012 11:19 AM

Please go ahead.

Let us know when you get the list compiled. Might be interesting.

Or, did you want someone to compile the list for you?

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07/09/2012 11:20 AM

You are forgetting availability, practicality and suitability for purpose, and how well it can be integrated with other materials.
You don't even define 'material'
"Best" is a moveable feast.. best for what?
What's the best material for making a bow, an arrow and a bowstring if you are lost in the jungle?

Carbon Nanotubes... WALOOB!
Has anyone actually made anything that actually functions from carbon nanotubes?
I nominate Bamboo!
Bamboo is doubtless a far wider used, practical material than carbon nanotubes, and on a strength/cost basis wins hands down (as does just about every other material, not to mention spaghettii)
Try building a scafolding around a building from carbon nanotubes.
And in the impractical category I nominate Spider's silk!
I'm sick to the back teeth with nano this nano that and nano the other.
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07/09/2012 11:31 AM

<...best for what...>

Exactly. One can only evaluate best when one has a full set of criteria and a pre-determined weighting system.

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07/09/2012 12:08 PM

Yeah, the Forth Bridge is made of steel girders.. WTF did they try and make the first three out of?

Oh, and btw. I'll be impressed with carbon nanotubes, when I see 'em made into a tube 8' long and 4" diameter, might be some damn use then.
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07/09/2012 12:34 PM

Hi Del
Thanks for your reply.
I never included availabily, practicality or suitability for purpose as Im not interested in these factors at the moment.

Ok by material I suppose I really mean metals (alloys super alloys etc).
Best is also the wrong word to use.
I just want to know which of all the worlds metals has the highest
-Tensile strength
-Corrosion resistance
-Yield strength
-Toughness

Was just hoping there may have been some specialists that may know these facts or someone may know where I could find these.
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07/09/2012 12:45 PM

For corrosion resistance, a henway will rank very near the top.

This thread is begging for this recommendation, it's about time to make it.

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07/09/2012 12:46 PM

What's a henway?

edit[Oh heck Doorman, he knows the answer. He'll be no fun.]

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07/09/2012 1:01 PM

Seriously,

I'd just start searching for each topic, tensile strenght, etc. and see what you get.

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07/09/2012 1:41 PM

Yeah but no but... carbon nanotubes aren't metal.
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Thanks, Im only 16 btw just starting to take an interest in this stuff, thats why I made this mistake. Thought signing up to this forum may be helpful but not so much.
Thanks for your attempts tho.
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07/09/2012 2:10 PM

"Thought signing up to this forum may be helpful but not so much."

Wow, is that ever a bucket of cold water!

As I look about my office I count no fewer that 41 reference books. I cannot possibly remember everything contained therein, that is why the library is maintained. It is commonly required that I must review several books to solve one particular element of a problem. Then I do it again for another element of the problem. And so it goes...

You, my young friend, will do well to consider this. You are experiencing the very same thing here at this discussion.

Why should we spoil you with free and easy information? I made my own kids learn to research, why should I treat you differently? One of them is a doctor, by the way.

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U r rilly annoeyeing.

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07/09/2012 3:46 PM

It has surely been VERY helpful.
Hopefully it has taught you to frame your questions very carefully!
Maybe we havn't given you what you wanted, but hopefully we've made you think.
Good luck with your interest in stuff. Curiosity is great, don't loose it!
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07/09/2012 3:52 PM

Haha thankyou, yeah I guess I should have been alot more specific and careful with terms I used when writing the question, or I guess I shouldn't have asked in the first place I should have been trying harder to research it,
if I had books I would have searched them but I dont and im no where near a library, all I have is online sources.
Thanks for everyones help though.

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The problem with sites like this is there are too many people with too big of egos, and when they can't give you a decent answer, they insult you to make themselves feel better. My hats off to the people here who at least tried to help you, and to the others I ask, "Why couldn't you just take a pass on this instead of leaving the reply you did?"

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So true. Thanks

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Please don't forget to include yourself, at the top of the list, in that group of members with over-INFLATED EGOS who don't always know the answer, but always take the opportunity to pound their chest in self righteous superiority.

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07/10/2012 10:45 AM

I hope you are not referring to me.
If so, then I'm happy to dissect and discuss each word of my replies and explain the usefulness therein.
My intent is to be both witty and informative.
Pointing out that best and strongest are meaningless without a context is actually a hugely important lesson (Which I fear has still gone un-noticed).

No point in designing something that can't be made because the specified material isn't available in useable quantities or cant be fixed to any other material.
You criticise the posts of others without being specific and yet your post adds nothing to the discussion.
If you want to take someone to task then do it, don't spash distain around as if it was holy water.
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07/10/2012 11:05 AM

Just to be clear, It has not gone unoticed to me that the chosen material depends on the application/context it is to be used in.
Yes I realise best and strongest were faulse words to use.
However I am not designing anything, I dont have a context, I just wanted to know what are the cutting edge materials known to man, which are the most impressive, but I can now see there is no simple ansewer, It gets alot more specific than just the most corrosion resistent or highest tensile and people don't consider certain materials due to the impracticality of actually using them etc etc
I guess I just thought there would be an easy ansewer and I would be able to produce a list of the highest tensile strengths and the highest corrosion resistant etc but I can see I need to be a lot more specific in my questions in future.

Thanks if your intent was to help me though, I can at least say Ive learnt something but I agree that some of the posts were a little irrelivant or could have been worded alot better.
Your comment about the henway for example was just a waste of time in my opinion and made me feel as if people were trying to team up on me and take the "mic".
I dont see that comment as witty or informative.
Witty may have made people laugh.

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07/10/2012 11:11 AM

Thanks... my ire wasn't aimed at you at all.
'Henway' wasn't me. I'd have suggested a tellecost.
I think we're about done.
Good luck in your future exploits, don't give up on us as a source of help!
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07/10/2012 11:18 AM

You don't get to make the rules, just because you asked a question here.

And the fact that you didn't get the desired, fully digested, scholarly response you thought you would just means that you haven't been here very long and don't understand how the forum functions.

It is up to you, the requester of help, to decide what answers are useable, and choose accordingly.

Nobody here gets paid to answer your questions, so the injection of some "useless" humor goes with the territory.

Stick around, ignore the uesless crumblings of some, and you'll learn more than you could ever imagine.

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Whatta ya mean henway isn't relevant it was a waste of time I can't believe you said that just wait until you need to know about a 710 cap or how to get tire marks off of the floor in your house after a visit from the world's worst friend.

He drank all of my beer, too!

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07/09/2012 4:12 PM

in point of fact the University of Cambridge made the longest carbon nanotube composite filiament to date, something like 18 kilometers long if memory serves. it is ALMOST strong enough to make a orbital elevator with.... give them time...

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So it would make a decent bowstring?
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if you didn't cut your fingers off trying to nock the arrow... or for that matter didn't cut the end off the bow when you tried to string the bow...

(see "sinclair filament" in Sci-Fi literature)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monomolecular_wire

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Me too DEL...I nominate Spider Webs, stronger than steel of the same size.

Hard to find big spiders to make use of this Web Thread...

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07/09/2012 3:29 PM

As to corrosion resistance you haven't said resistance to WHAT. There are all kinds of corrosion in all kinds of environments. Titanium is very corrosion resistant to salt water, but put it in concentrated hydrochloric acid and it won't last but a few minutes. Pure Tantalum is used in many extremely corrosive environments but it is relatively soft and weak. Inconel 625 is typically considered the "gold standard" material for chloride and sulfide corrosion, but put it in contact with mercury and all bets are off. Same with gold. Gold is one of the most inert materials around, until you expose it to mercury. every material has it's achillies heel.

Typically you won't find high values for all of these properties in the same material or at the same time. and the properties will change depending on the temperature as well as thermal history. carbon steel for instance has a marked change in the impact properties (and tensile properties as well) when the temperature gets below around 32 degrees F. the impact properties go way down while the tensile goes way up because it has dropped below it's glass transition temp. Also the tensile and yield in compression is typically very different from the same properties in tension.

if you want inert, there is always xenon or argon gas. but they have very poor tensile properties.... =b

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07/10/2012 3:37 AM

No-one has mentioned one of the toughest non-metals yet.

Kevlar.

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07/10/2012 9:47 AM

or spider silk! 1/4" diameter cable of spider silk is strong enough to stop a 747 in midflight... only problem, spiders aren't that big..... and making it synthetically has posed problems....

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only problem, spiders aren't that big

That's a problem?

Have you checked out transgenic goats lately?

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yea but for some reason the protein isn't folding right.... and of course goats don't have spinnerettes...

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If all else fails and you cannot find the answers via a Google Search, then there's always a trip to the local library......

And don't forget about the economic factor for each metal material.

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I have no access to a library, i dont drive and cant reach it by local transport ethier. i live in a remote area. thanks though.

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You are logged into the modern day equivalent of the library of Alexandria! The web has LOTS more stuff that the Library of Alexandria ever had.

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I know but he said "a trip to the local library" I was just explaining thats not an option.
I am obviously trying to search the web.

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Some websites for you to learn more:

http://www.asminternational.org/portal/site/www/

http://www.ssina.com/index2.html

http://www.imoa.info/

http://www.nickelinstitute.org/

http://www.tms.org/TMSHome.aspx

http://www.matweb.com/

http://www.asme.org/

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I want to applaud you on asking the questions. When I was your age, or perhaps a bit younger I asked much the same questions. Materials science has always fascinated me. I hope you do not lose your fascination, materials science underlies most engineering disciplines, (even software engineering since without advances in solid state materials science, modern computing could not exist.).

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07/10/2012 11:19 AM

Long time ago i read in a russian materials book a 1250 kgf/mm2 steel or iron (i d0n't remember what) "needles", it is 10 times hard alloy steel but you will get surprised by wires steel resistance, much higher than laminated rods because their thermal and mech. treatment.Cheap, short, easy and so beautiful book of materials science:Yu.Koslov,ed.Mir.-

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07/11/2012 10:53 PM

Libraries? Save your gas.

This is the Go-To-Place for everything exept my wife's Crawfish Etouffe recipe!

As for humor...witty remarks.... egos..... yep! they are all here and it would be a dang dull palce if they weren't.

The world is a serious enough place as is.....most of the folks here are professionals in their own field. Its a place to relax, share some knowledge and express a little humor....( and a 6 pound hen is way too big to do anything with but put in a Gumbo anyway)

I come here with every question i have from cooling my shop, to fixing a refrigerator and machine shop work....its a One-Stop-Shop for every imaginable physical thing in the world.

Relax a bit. Enjoy the good stuff and the humor. There will come a time when the guy you think is such a smart @$$ will have the ONLY answer you need.

As for me, I'm still the novice amongst these folks. I could never afford to pay for the consulting that gets done here.

ca ce bon , eh?

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DYNEEMA gets my vote for non -metal strength AND abrasion strength. Some of the other non-metal fibers are great for deflecting bullets and they makes nice boat hulls......but in fish netting filaments, I personally found some of these other fibers to be weaker on abrasion. Just FYI

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Question really is what you want to use the material for. Titanium, for example, has high tensile strength, but is useless in certain corrosive processes. Incoloy has great heat resistance, but caves in to many acids. So that question could be: A)Which materials have the best corrosion resistance to concentrated nitric acid? Or along those lines...

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