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Reactive Power

07/20/2012 3:05 AM

Dear Gurus,

All we know that induction motor takes inductive reactive power , but I didn't know why reactive power required for motor to run.

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Re: REACTIVE POWER

07/20/2012 3:19 AM

It doesn't.

In the case of a motor, reactive power is simply a feature of the motor's inductance, it being coils of wire, albeit rotating.

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Re: Reactive Power

07/20/2012 11:17 PM

It does not take it. It produces it.

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07/20/2012 11:37 PM

A motor doesn't require reactive power to run. You can operate virtually any 'AC' motor using DC. Think of reactive power as " the grease that makes the Watts flow" usable watts in this case. Reactive power is unusable watts. Cheers

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07/21/2012 1:03 AM

Really? I would like to see you run an AC motor on DC. The motor requires a ROTATING magnetic field. That requires alternating current. To answer the gentleman's question, You can't create the magnetic fields without inductors and as long as you are dealing with AC and inductors, there is going to be reactance. There is no getting away from that.

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07/23/2012 9:53 AM

Making a dc motor run on ac, or a ac motor run on dc will allow the armature to rotate. The only practical use is as a toaster with load applied in either case.

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07/23/2012 6:50 PM

True, but the question I was responding to was about running an AC motor on DC. The argument of load or no-load conditions was not the issue.

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07/20/2012 11:44 PM

Cables,wires,overhead line conductors etc have resistance,inductance and capacitance even when they are laid in parallel as in overhead power transmission lines,not only when made in a coil or winding form. Even small pieces of wires used to connect contactors to over current relays etc have found to have capacitance & inductance.

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07/21/2012 1:33 AM

In a simple alternating current (AC) circuit consisting of a source and a linear load, both the current and voltage are sinusoidal. If the load is purely resistive, the two quantities reverse their polarity at the same time. At every instant the product of voltage and current is positive, indicating that the direction of energy flow does not reverse. In this case, only real power is transferred.

If the loads are purely reactive, then the voltage and current are 90 degrees out of phase. For half of each cycle, the product of voltage and current is positive, but on the other half of the cycle, the product is negative, indicating that on average, exactly as much energy flows toward the load as flows back. There is no net energy flow over one cycle. In this case, only reactive energy flows-there is no net transfer of energy to the load.

Practical loads have resistance, inductance, and capacitance, so both real and reactive power will flow to real loads. Power engineers measure apparent power as the magnitude of the vector sum of real and reactive power. Apparent power is the product of the root-mean-square of voltage and current.

Engineers care about apparent power, because even though the current associated with reactive power does no work at the load, it heats the wires, wasting energy. Conductors, transformers and generators must be sized to carry the total current, not just the current that does useful work.

Another consequence is that adding the apparent power for two loads will not accurately give the total apparent power unless they have the same displacement between current and voltage (the same power factor).

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07/21/2012 7:20 PM

I commend you for your explanation, but If the OP didn't know this basic tenet then they need to hit the books more or change career paths.

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Re: Reactive Power

07/21/2012 8:09 AM

Reactive power in the induction motor is the power required to create magnetic field.

This particular power is not converted into mechanical power in the motor. Power absorbed by the motor is expressed in kVA and the power converted is expressed in kW, which is the active power. You have to do numerical exercises to understand this notion thoroughly.

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07/21/2012 7:26 PM

actually they are both Watts. you need to read up on the history of why one wattage was named kVA and and the other kW. They are both WATTS....one is usable (due to its average power) and the other isn't. (due again to it's average power). Pure and simple...stop making this harder than it already is.

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07/22/2012 6:46 AM

I should clarify my previous reply as follows:

In an induction motor, reactive power is used to create rotating magnetic field. This portion of the power used by the motor is not converted into useful mechanical power of the motor. Total power needed by the motor or furnished by the power supply is expressed in kVA and is termed apparent power. To find the real power absorbed by the motor, multiply the apparent power by the power factor of the motor which may be a factor between 0.80 and 0.95, given by the manufacturer of the motor. The power thus obtained is expressed in kW. A part of this absorbed active power is lost as heat in the iron, windings and frictional parts and thus affects the efficiency of the motor. Efficiency factor of the motor is specified by the manufacturer of the motor. It may have a value between 0.7 to 0.95 (0.95 being high efficiency motor). The absorbed active power multiplied by the efficiency factor is the rated name plate power of the motor, expressed in kW. Thus we have kVA furnished by the power supply, kW power aborbed by the motor and the kW power delivered by the motor.

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Re: Reactive Power

07/23/2012 1:29 PM

All AC machines are made-up of iron laminations to carry the magnetic field either to create change of voltage (Transformers) or to create rotation (Induction Motors). Therefore to magnetize these laminations, it needs magnetization current. This current is purely reactive that lags 900 to active current (in phase with supply voltage). The kind of power consumed by magnetization current required by iron lamination is a reactive power.

Any AC equipment (Transformer & Induction motor) needs reactive power otherwise it will notwork or function.

The amount of reactive power draws from the source to magnetize AC equipment and same amount of reactive power will return back to source after magnetization. This reactive power is burden to source (Generator). To avoid this burden (reactive power) on source, the reactive power is locally supplied by connecting the capacitor bank which neutralizes the inductive current by capacitive current with the result source will be free of inductive current (reactive power) and relief of burden of reactive power.

The designers will limit the magnetizing current (reactive power) from 10% to 15% of the rated current (rated kVA) of the AC Equipment (transformers & induction motors). This magnetization current creates lagging power factor as well as supplies reactive power required by transformers & induction Motors.

There is a difference among kW (Real Power), kVAR (Reactive Power Inductive or capacitive) and kVA (Apparent power).

The relation among them is (kVA)2 = (kW)2+(kVAR)2; If power factor is unity, then kVA= kW and kVAR=0.

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Re: Reactive Power

07/23/2012 2:07 PM

Use the "beer/foam" analogy. Reactive power is to the work done by the motor as the foam is to a glass of beer.

If you look at glasses of beer, they all have foam, right? So does that then mean that you REQUIRE foam in order to have beer? No, the foam is the RESULT of the beer being available for you to consume from a vessel (I like flagons myself). So the act of transferring the beer into the flagon results in there being foam, but the foam is not really an ESSENTAIL part of the beer*.

*Unless you believe the tripe you see on some commercials where they make that claim...

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