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Synchronizing Problem

07/25/2012 7:01 PM

Dear all,

I have a synchronizing problem with the 20 kV power grid as shown below. The Potensial Transformer was already installed on location A and B. With this type of installation, the synchronizing can only be done by shutting down the generator first.

While on the other location, there is no problem when the Potensial Transformer was installed on location A and C. What would be the problem here?

Thanks in advance

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Re: Synchronizing Problem

07/25/2012 10:17 PM

Maybe you need to check your PT at B and make sure it's secondary output is equal to the secondary output of the PT at A so your sync relay can read equivalent values between A & B.. It seems the PTs used at A & C has equal ratios so your sync relay was able to synchronize because they read the same voltage level unlike B..

I would recommend to stick with the configuration of A & C..

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Re: Synchronizing Problem

07/25/2012 10:49 PM

Thanks for the comments.

Would the phase shift on the transformer be the problem?

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Re: Synchronizing Problem

07/25/2012 11:58 PM

Yes.

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07/26/2012 2:40 AM

Yes phase shift can be the main reason actually unless the connection of the PTs or your relay took care of the phase shift.. And you are welcome

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Re: Synchronizing Problem

07/25/2012 11:48 PM

If you sync in MV, my recommend your VT both utility and set on MV side A and C, but if you sync in LV you put the VT on B and before ACB set.

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Re: Synchronizing Problem

07/29/2012 12:09 PM

Is there a difference between synchronizing on MV side or LV side?

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07/29/2012 4:24 PM

Yes, if the transformer vector groups differ.

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07/29/2012 8:21 PM

No, I mean which one to choose if we can synchronize it in a different voltage level?

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07/29/2012 8:44 PM

I think it would make most sense to synchronize at the voltage that will actually be connected in parallel.

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