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Oak Ridge Security Breach by Nuns!

08/06/2012 9:54 PM

I have always been against nuclear waste being stockpiled carelessly and without good security. I never thought it was this bad. This is highly refined radioactive material. Not waste! Imagine what would have happened with a group of highly trained terrorists. I cannot believe that we are this lame, stupid, and foolish.

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Re: Oak Ridge Security Breach by Nuns!

08/06/2012 10:03 PM

One security official is quoted as saying, "we are taking this very seriously". (background noise is either a bar, strip joint or the aviary at the local zoo, according to acoustics experts)

Nun, 82, Two Other Activists at Oak Ridge Commit "Worst Ever Seen"

Judge releases nun, 82, who breached Oak Ridge security | Crooks ...2

Oak Ridge uranium plant shut after protesters breach 4 fences, reach

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08/06/2012 10:44 PM

I can see it now...Sally Field, Whoopi Goldberg, and Mother Teresa. Movie time!

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Re: Oak Ridge Security Breach by Nuns!

08/09/2012 9:03 AM

More like Robbie Coltrane, Eric Idle, and Eddie Izzard

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Re: Oak Ridge Security Breach by Nuns!

08/06/2012 11:16 PM

Scary that they got into the facility. Screwed-up, or lack thereof, security which was outsourced (same firm as the guys providing security at the London Olympics).

This not good at all. Can you imagine if these people had been a terrorist cell? They would have blown the doors at Y-12 and been long gone with weapons grade Uranium before anyone would have been the wiser.

This reminds me all to well of an incident by Nuclear Protesters during the 1980's that happened at the former Griffiss AFB in Rome NY, a SAC facility. The protesters, armed with sledge hammers, got through the perimeter fence and pass the USAF Security Forces, then proceeded to bash away at the B-52 bombers sitting on the alert pad. Mind you, back then during the height of the Cold War any SAC bomber sitting on the alert pad is loaded up with nuclear weapons....in this case I believe that the BUFFS each had several Air-Launch-Cruise-Missiles (ALCM) with live nukes on board. Scary scary scary.......

[FYI, the 416th Bombardment Wing at Griffiss AFB was the first SAC unit equipped with the ALCM's in the early 80's. After their introduction, the protestors flocked there like seagulls after chumm in a bucket.]

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08/07/2012 12:42 AM

I thought we were better back then! Thanks for blowing my misconception apart.

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Re: Oak Ridge Security Breach by Nuns!

08/07/2012 10:12 AM

Ron, here's an article on the 1991 attack on Alert B-52's at Griffiss AFB. What's really scary was that there were 36 ALCM's (w/ nukes) loaded aboard the BUFF they pounded a hole in.

It's amazing how close they got to nuclear weapons that amazes me!

http://www.greenleft.org.au/node/5363

I'll try to find an article regarding the 1984 intrusion at Griffiss and post it here...

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08/07/2012 10:38 AM

Here's the court papers filed regarding the other intrusion at Griffiss AFB.

http://openjurist.org/760/f2d/447/united-states-v-allen

In case you didn't know, another group tried to jackhammer the concrete top of a Minuteman III missile silo at Whiteman AFB about this time. Can you imagine if the had gotten inside the silo (highly doubtful) and damaged the missile of the MIRV warheads......the nukes most likely would not have exploded because of the redundant failsafes, but.......

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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08/07/2012 4:02 PM

As a retired psych nurse I should not be shocked by this insanity all around us, but I am never the less. Thanks for the comments.

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08/07/2012 6:14 PM

My wife is a psych nurse and tells me of horror stories each and every day. Here in New York State, they've cut back the state funded mental health facilities to the point they have closed many and the nut jobs now live in group homes. Many of these people don't function well w/o their meds and should be in institutions, not out on the street.....and many do not take them or skimp on taking them. The state cannot make them take their meds or tell them much what to do...it's against the law.

Each day my wife has to break up fights amongst the "clients" at an outpatient mental health facility she works at. No wonder I bought her a large can of pepper spray! I don't trust these people whatsoever, and I warn her not to turn her back on any of them, otherwise they'll stab her in the back with a Bic pen or something similar. It's not like when she was working in the Med Unit at our county jail where there were CO's to watch her back every second when she was in contact or in the same room with an inmate. BTW, a good portion, about 75-80%, of the inmates in the jail are nut jobs that should be in NYS OMH facilities, not out on the street homeless until the police arrest them.....and many are repeat offenders too, many times over!!!

It's no wonder this country is going to hell and a handbasket!

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08/07/2012 6:37 PM

I don't know the law, but she might lose her license if she uses the pepper spray. Nurses are fair game. The patients just have to say how mentally ill they are. Police can get away with a lot, nurses not much. I am a burly guy, and never got hurt, aside form a black eye from a vet, who sucker punched me, before I grabbed him. It can be a dangerous job, but using tasers or pepper spray could get you fired or sued. Have her check the law in N.Y. or do it for her.

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