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Plant Identification

08/21/2012 6:24 AM

Hi all can anyone identify this plant for me please. I think its a weed, its growing in my UK garden. My wife likes it because the bees really love it but I think it may be the source of my hay fever type problem. I never had hay fever till this arrived but find I have to use a spray 2 or 3 times a day. Also since its nearly stopped flowering the symptoms are reducing.It has quite a pungent unpleasant smell to it. It looks like stinging nettle but isn't.

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08/21/2012 6:29 AM

There's some of that here too.

It is unlikely to be the sole source of pollen levels as these vary with time-of-year, temperature and location along with many other factors. Oilseed rape is a much bigger 'pollutant', for example, and happens earlier in the year. It's only the sex-life of plants.

The UK's Meterological Office publishes daily data on predicted pollen levels; check their website for more details.

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08/21/2012 7:34 AM

I'm no Percy Thrower, but does this help ?

Just a by-the-by, but my understanding is that a 'weed' is simply a plant growing in an undesired place. In other words, searching for 'weeds' may not yield an answer.

PWSlack is quite correct - it's unlikely that your hay fever is down to just one single plant ot type of pollen. Still, it's worth trying to ID this and get rid of it (in an 'eco-nice' way).

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08/21/2012 11:46 PM

One man's weed is another woman's flower.

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08/22/2012 2:45 AM

Next time I get Mrs K flowers, It'll be dandylions .

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08/21/2012 7:35 AM

Leaves look like many of the mint family. Could be catnip. What we have potted on the deck is just starting to bloom also. Flowers are white though. They can be many shades of purple also.

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08/21/2012 8:48 AM

'Tis a Salvia........Verticillata ..........with mould

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08/21/2012 9:08 AM

Looks like catnip....where's a cat when ya need 'em?

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08/21/2012 10:05 AM

Del is probaly aware, but rolling all over the floor and salivating.

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08/21/2012 10:10 AM

ps - Peter, delete your email address in the signature line of your profile (unless you want a deluge of spam). Like any other place, CR4 gets harvested.

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08/21/2012 2:10 PM

Thanks Kris tried to do this but have forgotten pword and it won`t let me. Need to know how to request pword reminder at the moment I am on auto login. Thanks for the rest of the answers, it does look like it may be catnip and reading about it it would seem to be very aromatic and nasty. Maybe there is a bit of cat in me. Thanks guys will get rid of it. Incidentally it has small black seeds .

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08/21/2012 2:28 PM

Try link number 6 here ,

It's not a grade A naughty, but admin advise people not to post email address. Yep, you definitely must have some cat in you .

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08/21/2012 3:16 PM

Thanks Kris this should have sorted it.

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08/21/2012 3:18 PM

Glad to be of help.

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08/21/2012 12:10 PM

Yeah, that stuff's nasty....Go chemical warfare on it...

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08/21/2012 11:33 PM

I am fairly sure I met the plant in the mountains from time to time. Did not bother me at all, and I have to pay attention to hay fever. It is something, that comes and goes in your life.

Studying the weather office reports in detail will be fruitful. Here in the USA early february grass pollen was swept up from the Gulf of Mexico states (over a 1000miles), then in march southern yellow pine pollen dominated (same distance). The high level fast airflow circling the globe can do that, when it dips sharply south, then on the return path carries "stuff" along.

What you see is frequently not, what causes discomfort. By the way, using electrostatic air filters indoors sweeps the air free of the nuisance in short order.

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08/21/2012 11:54 PM

You should be able to identify this positively using a botanical key or dichotomous key.

Here's an example that does UK wildweeds.

Google for others if that doesn't work.

The suggestions you have received so far will speed the process.

Enjoy!

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08/22/2012 4:48 AM

Certainly looks like Catnip.

Apparently in the old days they used to give the executioner an infusion of this to give him the courage to do the dirty deed.

Found this out on a tour of Alnwick Castle poison garden.

So yes, powerful stuff!!

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08/22/2012 6:57 AM

Turns you into an axe wielding homicidal maniac?

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08/22/2012 7:12 AM

Some time before we knew about this, my wife had crystalised some of the flowers in sugar and used them to decorate some cakes for my wee sons birthday party.

If there had been some axes to hand then they probably would have been "axe wielding homocidal maniacs" !!

Who needs to buy sweets and drinks with all the wrong e-numbers when you can grow the stuff for free!!

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08/22/2012 7:32 AM

....and then another weed in the kid's pizzas to counter the catnip.

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08/22/2012 8:07 AM

..........and so it goes on!!

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08/22/2012 10:47 AM

Best way to ID it is by the flower and cross reference it to a flower taxonomy book. Purple flower, number of petals in flower, arrangement of stems (opposite, whorled, or alternately), etc. I use Newcomb's wildflower guide. Its much harder on the internet or with just pictures. I use it a lot for the wetland delineations I've done. ww.realtimerendering.com/flowers/flowers.html

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08/22/2012 10:52 AM

It looks like everyone hit on catnip/mint and this is because the entire mint family is large and consistent. You have a mint family plant.

None of the mint family is poisonous. All of them have square cross section stems, pairs of opposite leaves, and two-lipped clusters of flowers. Catnip, balms, mints, sages, nettles, oregano, basil, and the list goes on, are all members of this family.

The library here at UC Davis has an excelent Librarian who has been able to identify all but one plant pic I've sent her. Give the Library at UC Davis (California) a try.

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