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Odor Removal Process

09/20/2012 7:31 AM

Hello Ladies and Gentleman: My associate has invented a device ( patent pending) that removes any carbon based organic odor. It uses a thermal device that runs on natural gas or propane and draws the air in by convection and as it passes through the reactor removes all odors and pathogens. The demonstrator unit only passes about 10 cfm of purified air but it has on demonstration the ability to clear a room 30 ft. by 40 ft with 10 ft ceiling of odors created from a pail of hog manure and chicken manure. These demonstrations were done at universities and in the field on vault toilets.

The question is. How can 10 cfm of purified air clean up such a large area in less than one minute? What is the reaction? Is it some form of ionization? some reaction with electron potential meaning positive and negative atoms neutralizing each other? We do not have the financial resources to go into testing nor do we know where to start to determine the process. Not that it matters as on every demonstration we are successful in removing the odors but questions are asked and not knowing the correct answer does not satisfy the customer. Thanks for your constructive comments.

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Re: Odor removal process

09/20/2012 7:40 AM

Would the patent not have to specify how exactly the device works?

Once the device leaves the room all odor is gone? Thinking of carpet contamination it seems not a working solution.

My best bet is it is burning the carbon related odors. From expirience I know that certain gas with sometimes ugly odor burns just fine leaving no smell afterwards.

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09/20/2012 7:56 AM

When it is shut off or removed from the room the odor comes back but it takes a few minutes. In other words it returns but not as fast is it was removed. We did a demo yesterday in a small room 7 ft x 20 x 9 ft high. Fat rendering plant, we had two open containers of waste plus the septic tank opening 3 ft x 3 ft was open at the end of the room and we stirred it up to get the maximum benefit and the odor was removed within minutes and did not return until we removed the unit. A female staff member was invited in from the outside entrance and all she could smell was the cologne warn by one of the visitors when she got close enough. In the plant this would not be possible.

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09/20/2012 8:03 AM

Patent Pending also details are not usually disclosed fully on patent even so the synergistic effect of the exhaust would not be part of the patent process. I know all I need to know of the device just want to understand the added benefit of the odor elimination that is far above the 10 CFM the device is operating at. We are working in plants that have continuous odor causing processes thus removing the carpet ( material ) is not an option. Just trying to understand how such a small CFM of treated air can have such an overall effect. We know from testing that there is no carbon monoxide in the exhaust in fact the exhaust can be left in the area for added heat if desired.

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09/20/2012 7:41 AM

Wouldn't a telephone call to the associate satisfy the curiosity?

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09/20/2012 7:43 AM

He does not know the answer thus this posting. We see each other every day at this time as we are performing demonstrations together.

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09/20/2012 11:07 AM

Well it seems you're reducing the concentration much the same way dehumidification works, you don't have to dehumidify every cubic ft of air, just enough to lower the average, the odors need to be at a certain concentration to be detectable...This is not a new concept as similar systems are used on process plants to de-odorize the exhaust....

http://fumeextraction.fumexinc.com/item/all-categories/gas-odor-filtration-systems-2/item-1016?&plpver=10&origin=compare&filter=0&CTypeID=2

http://en.nikko-net.co.jp/product/deodorization_system.html

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