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Wooden Dishes

11/02/2012 5:41 PM

Hello, i have seen wooden coffee cups, shot glasses and even beer mugs, i was curious if anyone knew what process is used to seal the wood? Is it some type of food grade resin or silicon base sealer? Sorry, google has been fairly unhelpful today, if anyone has any experience with this id love to benefit lol, i know food grade mineral oil could work, like used in butcher blocks but i was hoping for a onetime answer, could a coating of 100% nontoxic elmers glue cut with water or vinegar do the job, without leaving a bad taste? Thanks in advance

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11/02/2012 6:01 PM

A drying oil would be better than a non-drying mineral oil. Boiled Linseed Oil is excellent. Minwax transparent stains contain good drying oils and are food safe. I use a mix of boiled linseed oil and spar varnish on top of a saturation coat of boiled linseed oil which I let dry for at least 36 hours. It is called a "hand rubbed finish" which is very dust friendly, unlike most high gloss finishes. In fact, I have been known to dust extra sanding dust onto the bottom layer just to help fill the pores of the wood. (Hand rubbed, by the way, really does mean rubbed in by hand. Your bare hand....rubbing...warming the surface up. Some recipes call for mineral spirits to be added to this mix. Don't do it. Well, perhaps for the saturation base coat but not for the finish coat.

The oil will cause the spar varnish to harden up really quickly. Like under thirty minutes! Less if you rub it....

Some drying oils are toxic...tung oil comes to mind, as well as that stuff you are supposed to put onto teak furniture once a year. The drying agents "may" contain lead, and therefore make it toxic.

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11/02/2012 6:17 PM

Some things, just are.
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11/02/2012 8:47 PM

Good Answer. Not so good from MY experience

Probably goes back to the time that I finished a set of wooden candlesticks with mineral oil and ruined my grandma's hand embroidered table cloth. I don't like mineral oil for that reason. Obviously some folks believe in it. Personally...I don't want to risk my grandma's wrath again!

(And she has been dead for 22 years!)

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11/02/2012 9:54 PM

Thank you for the help, another fast question, the guy at the local menards said that clear poly resin is fda approved for food, but im thinking probably not to actually eat or drink from, also titebond 2 woodglue is fda approved for food products and is 100% waterproof, gorilla glue is not fda approved but according to there customer servce email, is activly and legally used on and around food products in Europe and has been for years, apparently it dries to.a "inert" resin based plastic? Any thought on using any of these as a one time waterproof finish? I just dont want to end up poisoning one of my inlaws lol!

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11/03/2012 10:18 AM

This may become a handmade heirloom. Therefore it is not a question of what it will be like now, or this year, but ten or fifteen years from now! Some resins are UV sensitive, and most if not all varnishes and resins will eventually crackle. Cracks in the finish will allow the fluid to seep into the pores of the wood, creating problems. So...the usual answer is to finish the inside with an oil finish. The outsides can be varnished like any fine piece of woodwork...though to prevent cracks due to uneven drying, they are usually finished with the same finish as the inside.

An oil finish of course (whether a drying or non-drying oil) will need to be maintained. And this is not too difficult. The saying "once a day for a week, once a week for a year and once a year after that" is not wrong. Its easy to do...just wipe it down with an oil wet rag, put it on a shelf.

There are other things you can do, and there may be new finishes on the market now, but this is what I have found based on about 45 years of experience. How can you get easier or cheaper than that? Why would you risk molecules of petrochemicals such as urethane getting into your system?

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11/03/2012 11:17 AM

I'm with Yusef1.

The fact that these products are "approved" for use as a glue means that it's probably ok to glue two pieces of wood together to make a bowl, but the actual exposure of glue is very limited to just a glue line, where most/all of the squeeze-out is removed.

I would NOT paint these products on anything I would ever use for food or drink.

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11/03/2012 11:00 PM

Epoxy Formulations --work well.

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11/04/2012 12:44 AM

Use, use, use, and at last it will be goog.

Remeber, the firs human, do the same.

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11/04/2012 3:46 AM

How could that be off topic, it is what I was thinking.

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11/04/2012 9:31 AM

From dozens of cutting boards I made as gifts when I was a teenager, I simply used corn oil.

Obviously safe to eat. Makes a nice rich ummm Finish? It surely brings out the color and grain.

dip or wipe it on. and enjoy, re apply as needed in the future.

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11/04/2012 4:54 PM

Bees Wax...that's the only thing I was ever told to use. Smells great too!

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11/04/2012 8:48 PM

I feel like the wooden ware is a little like cast iron cookware -- over time it develops a patina from all the good things that have seen it in use. While I do hand wash them, I don't want to let them soak or use harsh cleaners or scrubbers. Think of how we treat wooden furniture. Oils are appreciated, and so is humidity; dryness is your enemy! (I have seen Japanese wooden items displayed in a case with a glass of water. Kitchen items shouldn't be so sensitive, but consider their needs.) And remember for wooden handles on knives -- no soaking, no dishwasher.

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11/04/2012 9:40 PM

Thanks everyone for the great suggestions im going to go with something natural ill probably give the linseed oil a try and maybe the bees wax, ill try and post some pictures after Christmas =)

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