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Wooden Furniture in Electrical Substations

11/03/2012 8:49 AM

I have commmonly heard that wooden furnitures and cartons are not allowed inside substation ,are there any international standards which mention the same.Please advise if so.

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Re: wooden furnitures in Electrical substations

11/03/2012 10:10 AM

It would probably fall within fire codes. Different classes of fires require different methods of extinguishing. Having a combined alpha and charlie fire, just makes things more complicated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_classes

I think this would go beyond wood though. I believe that most local codes would not allow the use of substations as storage lockers.

I don't know where you are, but in the US, we probably have 15 different government agencies telling us not to pile up junk in substations.

http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=standards&p_id=9868

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11/03/2012 11:02 AM

Don't forget Bravo. Transformers in substations are oil filled, and are the greatest fire hazard there.

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11/03/2012 11:53 AM

Yeah. That oil would burn, but it would take a pretty good explosion to rupture the transformer walls. At that point, I'd just let her burn. I guess the new silicone based oils are almost nonflammable.

Nonetheless, with or without written rules, piling up wooden crates, boxes and furniture inside a substation is not a good idea. I'd invest in a separate shed.

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11/04/2012 11:31 PM

Sometimes they just leak, and then burn.

Agreed on the piling up of wood though.

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11/04/2012 8:51 AM

Assuming that you are from India, refer to IE Rule No. 29.

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01/23/2024 3:07 AM

It is certainly ill-advised to have <...Wooden Furniture in Electrical Substations...>.

  • Why wait for <...international standards...> to surface?
  • Why not just take the initiative, and do the right thing by getting rid of it instead? As in right now?

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01/23/2024 7:52 AM

It is not forbidden in our country and we had a good practice to have documentation at paper form in every substation and transmission plant. For a short time while we had an American employer 15 year ago , our fire fighter service had an internal recommendation that all flammable material should be removed from high voltage facilities. Unfortunately, management took it literally and we lost all documentation . So now our younger workers have a problem with incomplete and incorrect documentation in repairs and emergency situations .

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Re: Wooden Furniture in Electrical Substations

01/23/2024 10:13 AM

Metals burn as well, though...

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