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Could a Plugged Cat Cause This?

12/01/2012 1:11 AM

I have a 1991 Isuzu Pu 2.6 fuel injected. I have been thinking my cat was plugged up But now I think it may be electrical. The trouble is when I start the truck the Low fuel light comes on and it dies. Sometime if you hold the key on the start position and rev it up it will be ok. It is getting worse though. last night I got it started and went down the street and when the RPMs dropped down to Idle the low fuel light came on and it died. as soon as I turned the key to the start position it would start but as soon as I let loose of the key the key it dies. so I was going down the street turning the Key to the start position to keep it running and after a while it just kept running But the low fuel light is still staying on. Any one know what can cause this is it wiring ?

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12/01/2012 1:16 AM

How about low fuel? You haven't really addressed that yet....

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12/01/2012 2:14 AM

No fuel is not the problem it is on half a tank

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12/01/2012 2:44 AM

Yes.

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12/01/2012 3:19 AM

How very dare you?
It were nuffin to do wiv me guv'
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12/01/2012 9:19 AM

I hope the laxative worked and that you're feeling better my furry friend.

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12/01/2012 5:06 PM

And here I was thinking we could feed Del some cheese, and have him report back on his empirical findings!

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12/02/2012 8:00 PM

Do you have a product over there called X-Lax?

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12/01/2012 5:31 AM

Explain better please. If one hold the key in the start position, the startermotor will run and engage with the ring gear.....if one rev the engine the starter armature windings will be thrown out by centrifugle force an mess up the thing completly.

If the catalisator is blocked the engine might idle well but loose power at higher engine speed and under load.

Remove feul tank cap, try again. Or measure the feul pressure and volume delivered.

Clean variable resistor by throttle valve. If you can get to it.

Thousands more possibilities!

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12/01/2012 3:06 PM

OK I went out to try to locate my problem. When I started the truck the low fuel light came on but was real dim. when I gave it a little gas the light went out. So I was going to give it a test ride. Put it in reverse and the low fuel And the battery light came on and started to Die, put it in Neutral and lights went out and it ran ok again. Last night when it wanted to die, as long as I had the key in the start position it ran ok, Turn the key loose and Low fuel light came on and died.

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12/01/2012 4:02 PM

I have a few silly questions for you. Did you measure the battery or alternator voltage during this? Did you query the computer for fault codes? Have you brought this to a mechanic?

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12/01/2012 8:50 AM

To me this sounds like a bad ground or multiple bad grounds in the electrical system.

A easy test would be to make a few jumper wires from 12 gage or heavier wire yourself that go from the fire wall to the engine and from the engine to the frame plus one from the frame to the fuel tank if you have a point you can attach to.

Make sure all connection points are clean bare metal and give it a test. If the problems go away then you know what caused it.

As far as over spinning the starter with the engine thats generally not a issue being they have over running clutches built right into starter Bendix drives so they cant be over spun by the engine when starting and it has been standard starter design for about a century or so now.

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12/01/2012 10:36 AM

Is this the plugged cat?

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12/01/2012 10:44 AM

The intake and fuel supply check out good. Kinda sluggish on acceleration though.

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12/02/2012 8:04 PM

DEL. DEL!

If you can still here me, swallow the X-Lax.

And don't turn your back on me.

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12/01/2012 10:44 AM

Looking at a diagram for the 1991 Isuzu 2.6L engine. The fuel pump has a relay. Which is energized in the run mode. It is bypassed in the start mode, powered from the key switch start position. So I would check the relay.

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12/05/2012 5:41 PM

While I'm a day late and a dollar short as they say. I definitely think its electrical. I had the misfortune of parking on a hill very short on gas, needless to say the pump pickup and the gasoline were separated.

On the particular vehicle I'm talking about the pump would run for about 3 seconds after you turn the key then stop. I'm making the assumption here that there is some sort of pressure switch to authorize the pump to keep running. I would temporarily bypass their relay and directly feed power to the pump. I'm assuming that would end the problem which leaves three culprits bad relay, a worn out ignition switch, or a defective pressure switch. I regularly advised people not to have too much weight on their key ring. Which is something I go off and do anyway. I would hate to think of the price of a new ignition switch that reads the codes off the key.

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12/02/2012 1:48 AM

Using a pressure gauge and a hose, check the engine oil pressure; there are a couple of places where you can tap into the oil galleries. If it is more than about five psig at idle, the oil pump and bearing clearances are probably OK. If the pressure is less than five psi and the pump bypass valve isn't stuck open (and you have oil!), nothing short of an engine overhaul will solve your problem. Assuming that the oil pressure is up to snuff, you must find the oil pressure switch in the fuel pump relay circuit, the function of which is to stop the fuel pump when the engine is not running while the ignition is on. This prevents the fuel pump from pumping the tank's contents out onto an accident scene if the driver doesn't -- or can't -- turn off the ignition. This switch is bypassed when the ignition switch is in the "START" ("CRANK") position, and that is why the truck will run when cranking.

Check the wiring to/from the switch and, of course, the switch itself -- which is most likely the problem.

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12/02/2012 8:10 PM

you have a faulty electical connection to the pump/tank. check you ground wires

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12/02/2012 8:23 PM

Your symptoms do not match the ones for a restricted exhaust.

An exhaust restriction will limit the power the engine can make. And will slowly get worse as it clogs more. At the limits of the restriction, the engine will run hotter as it can not dump all of the heat out of the tail pipe. Follow Ozzy's post, or test the voltage at the pump till you find the problem. Good luck.

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12/03/2012 9:47 AM

Have you checked the ignition switch? Sounds like it could be falling apart.

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12/05/2012 6:14 PM

try replacing the battery in the key fob.

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12/05/2012 7:22 PM

Thank you all for your feedback. I will have to do some checking as you suggested. Again thanks for the feed back

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