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Cable Lug

01/18/2013 8:28 AM

Dear All

What is the disadvantage/advantage if i using cable lug 1 size below of the cable. because some cable lug do not have the same size of the cable.

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Re: Cable Lug

01/18/2013 9:55 AM

The terminal [lug] is a power cable most of failure location.

The terminal has to withstand the maximum permitted steady state and short-circuit current of the cable. Then you must use a suitable tool to crimp it and a suitable length and strength. See the following:

http://www.klauke.com/fileadmin/pdf/Produkte/BRDESONDERDR108GB_DE_Sonderdruck_GB.pdf

First of all as the conductor could be solid, stranded [usually class II (B), compressed or compact, round or sectorial the lug has to fit all the possibility in one lug. So you may use a metric conductor in an AWG destined lug but very close [as 300 MCM lug for 150 mm^2 conductor.]

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01/18/2013 10:47 AM

An advantage is, it may be a field expedient solution: use what I have on hand, get this installation finished so I can go home.

A disadvantage may be the subsequent unscheduled undesirable thermal event.

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Re: Cable Lug

01/18/2013 11:33 AM

Actually,

Usage of under size lug is not an issue...! Mostly we found that little lower size of lug will not have much thermal co-efficient of differenance. So, use then same what you have...!

Also, as far as you are sure about load end. B'coz after fixing the lug immediately you

will not leave it as it is. No need to get confuse. Go ahead with fixing the job. Then, you can arrange all the required and specific material.

All the best....!

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Re: Cable Lug

01/18/2013 1:46 PM

If you are referring to a mechanical lug, they usually have a range of wire size they will accept. If you use wire smaller than the lowest in the approved range, there is a risk that it will pull out of the lug under fault conditions and cause an arc flash event that could hurt or kill someone and / or start a fire.

If you are referring to a compression lug, it is illegal in most places with reasonable safety laws to use a compression lug on any wire that it is not SPECIFICALLY listed to be used on. So using a lug that is one size smaller than the wire is not only likely impossible without trimming strands off of the wire and thereby changing the current capacity of it. This will expose the perpetrator as being the party responsible for the ensuing fire, arc flash, death and disfigurement of whomever is around it when it fails.

Other than that, no problem.

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Re: Cable Lug

01/19/2013 4:25 AM

Hi All

Due to no available of 1.3mm cable lug, i've use 1.5mm cable lug prior to testing.

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01/19/2013 3:10 PM

Friends,

JRaef has given you a very pithy but correct answer. The reason it is "illegal in most places" is because the electrical codes (NEC and probably others) specify that components must be installed in accordance with their listing directions. In other words, if the product has installation (or maintenance) instructions or limits by the testing agency's listing, you must comply with these or be breaking the law.

Some crimping tools will take a wide range of lugs and crimp them onto a smaller wire with no problems because of their design. They will usually include instructions that show this work to be acceptable even if the components used do not give the permission. That is because you have 4 components in play--the wire, the lug, the tool, and the installer.

Be smart--ensure that your work will meet codes, so you minimize future liability.

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Re: Cable Lug

01/20/2013 3:16 PM

One disadvantage might be dismissal from post, following some undesirable catastrophic self-disassembly event at the lug, perhaps?

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