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Fastener Material

05/25/2007 7:44 AM

We have an application where sheetmetal assembly is processed in a furnace at about 1200°C. In this assembly we are using normal carbon steel fasteners and we feel that after the thermal cycle in completed, the fasteners will loose its physical properties especially hardness, tensile strength etc.

Can any one suggest a better carbon steel that should be used which will have mechanical properties desired for fasteners even after subjecting to the thermal cycle. Fastener used are generally M6, M8, M10 fine metric threads and thermal cycle is - heating to 1200° C gradually in about 1 hour then subjected it to the same temp for about 1 hour then gradual cooling for about 2 hours. Entire process is done in hydrogen reducing atmosphere.

Thanks to all the replies in advance.

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Re: Fastener Material

05/25/2007 11:27 PM

Q! Are you sure you need the fasteners forever?

If these were designed only to fit up-then so be it-let them remain in position -but you weld up the whole to a monolithic mass.

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Re: Fastener Material

05/26/2007 9:58 AM

Short answer: Carbon steels: No!

And Alloy steels won't be any better. 1200C is high enough to wipe out the mechanical properties even in heat treated alloy bolts.

As you have been advised- fasteners for fit up; then weld before furnace treat.

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Re: Fastener Material

05/26/2007 10:54 AM

I do not think you will find any carbon steel fasteners that can with stand 1200C without getting soft [losing its tensile properties]. 1200C is pretty hot for carbon steels and also the carbon steel fasteners will decarb and you will find it will scale if the furnace is not vacuum or with inert gases, making it still weaker. You may want to look at inconel fasteners. But if you are dip brazing or plan to weld the assembly after the heat treatment, you could tack weld first and load in the furnace, then afterwards you could weld the assembly.

Question: What is this furnce process for, maybe you have not tell us the whole story on exactly what you are trying to accomplish?.

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Re: Fastener Material

05/26/2007 2:27 PM

The only way is to chnge the fastening principle. It is not possible to use steels for such temperatures.

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